When they do tire rotation, do they change with the rims?

Zeze

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Or do they just rotate the tires only (the rubber tube)?

If latter is true, the dealership forgot or scammed me, because the rims haven't changed position (easy to tell with certain scratches).
 
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Zeze

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Lmao...zeze u cant be seriously asking this question

? I've never owned a car with rims (mine are steel with cover). It's my gf's car.

I'm sure they change with rims, but just wanted to make sure before I rage at them.
 

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? I've never owned a car with rims (mine are steel with cover). It's my gf's car.

I'm sure they change with rims, but just wanted to make sure before I rage at them.

No matter what kind of rims/wheels you have, be they stylish alloy wheels or the less stylish, older steel wheels (with hupcaps/covers,) they ALWAYS rotate the entire wheel/tire assembly.

It's ridiculous for you to think your mechanic didn't do this. The amount of extra work to not do it this way and instead to take each tire off of it's wheel/rim makes zero sense.

Despite what you think, they did not do this. Trust me on this.
 

Zeze

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No matter what kind of rims/wheels you have, be they stylish alloy wheels or the less stylish, older steel wheels (with hupcaps/covers,) they ALWAYS rotate the entire wheel/tire assembly.

It's ridiculous for you to think your mechanic didn't do this. The amount of extra work to not do it this way and instead to take each tire off of it's wheel/rim makes zero sense.

Despite what you think, they did not do this. Trust me on this.

Thought so, thanks.

I didn't imply the mechanic did do it, I never trust those fvckers from experience. It is silly to take off the tires only, but just wanted to make sure.
 

lxskllr

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Tire rotation isn't really necessary. It balances the wear over all four tires, but that's not a big concern. Look at the tread. If the wear's similar from front to back, it doesn't matter if they rotated them or not.
 

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Two exceptions:

1.) Directional tires, which to properly rotate, you must dismount two tires and remount them to switch sides. That said, they probably will keep the same tire on the same wheel (just pointed the other way to switch sides). It'd be super confusing not to do it that way.

2.) Staggered tires. If you have wider tires in the rear than the front, the wheels are generally wider as well. Thus, you can't change the axle the wheel is on, but can move them left to right and vice versa.
 

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? I've never owned a car with rims (mine are steel with cover). It's my gf's car.

I'm sure they change with rims, but just wanted to make sure before I rage at them.

Zeze

You are starting to make a deadly mistake here.

She is longer to be considered as a GF.


As to the question, rim and tire are treated as one unit. Front goes to rear, staying on same side and rear to front
 

Number1

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Or do they just rotate the tires only (the rubber tube)?

If latter is true, the dealership forgot or scammed me, because the rims haven't changed position (easy to tell with certain scratches).

Some people say that there are no stupid questions and they might be right but this question you asked, it comes pretty close.

Or maybe you're royalty and have absolutely no knowledge of us commoners day to day living. If that is the case, then forgive my arrogance and I bow before you.
 

Zeze

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Some people say that there are no stupid questions and they might be right but this question you asked, it comes pretty close.

Or maybe you're royalty and have absolutely no knowledge of us commoners day to day living. If that is the case, then forgive my arrogance and I bow before you.

lol internet. :)
 

dud

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No matter what kind of rims/wheels you have, be they stylish alloy wheels or the less stylish, older steel wheels (with hupcaps/covers,) they ALWAYS rotate the entire wheel/tire assembly.

It's ridiculous for you to think your mechanic didn't do this. The amount of extra work to not do it this way and instead to take each tire off of it's wheel/rim makes zero sense.

Despite what you think, they did not do this. Trust me on this.



Agreed. Don't forget that each tire would have to be re-balanced ... further complicating and adding unnecessary work to the task.
 

Zeze

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Zeze

You are starting to make a deadly mistake here.

She is longer to be considered as a GF.


As to the question, rim and tire are treated as one unit. Front goes to rear, staying on same side and rear to front

Yeah, I keep calling her GF, lol. Crazy times.. she's my fiance now.

Sorry about not being 100% sure, which is why I asked. Now.. How do they grow pickles?
 

BoomerD

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Howard

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Wow. I am saddened to hear this, and know that you have the same skin colour as me.
 

jagec

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Two exceptions:

1.) Directional tires, which to properly rotate, you must dismount two tires and remount them to switch sides. That said, they probably will keep the same tire on the same wheel (just pointed the other way to switch sides). It'd be super confusing not to do it that way.

2.) Staggered tires. If you have wider tires in the rear than the front, the wheels are generally wider as well. Thus, you can't change the axle the wheel is on, but can move them left to right and vice versa.

That's really only one exception. If your tires aren't staggered, you just rotate front to back on the same side and preserve directionality.
 

Svnla

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I hope the OP did not pay extra to get his tires filled with nitrogen. :D
 

Thump553

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I hope the OP did not pay extra to get his tires filled with nitrogen. :D

That's not really necessary so long as you periodically purge and refill your tires with fresh air. Most garages don't talk about this service but if you tip the mechanic an extra ten spot that should cover it.
 

BoomerD

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I hope the OP did not pay extra to get his tires filled with nitrogen. :D

:colbert:

I just had Costco put new tires on both vehicles...not only do they fill the tires with nitrogen...they put on green valve caps to indicate the nitrogen fill...:rolleyes:
Fortunately they DID NOT put them on the Expedition...something to do with the TPS sensors...:shrug:
 

BUTCH1

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Tire rotation isn't really necessary. It balances the wear over all four tires, but that's not a big concern. Look at the tread. If the wear's similar from front to back, it doesn't matter if they rotated them or not.

If your driving FWD It's just giving away money to not do it, the fronts must drive+steer+bear more weight. Go ahead and not rotate but you will soon be buying 2 new ones for the front instead of extending the life of all four by rotating..