They have really dropped the ball here. Vista is running great for me, but I can't play my games.THe only problem I'm having with Vista is Nvidia, if I had an ATI card, I'd be totally content right now.
SunnyD
Belgian Waffler
I have an 8800GTX in vista and haven't had any video problems with the 100.65 Release drivers.
However I built a Quad Monitor computer for a friend, and because of no SLI support on the current release drivers for the 7XXX/6XXX Cards, I cant enable all 4 quite yet.
However I built a Quad Monitor computer for a friend, and because of no SLI support on the current release drivers for the 7XXX/6XXX Cards, I cant enable all 4 quite yet.
I can play everything so far in Vista with my 8800 GTS with little or no problems.
But the flickering text in Vista Ult. poker is pissing me off.
But the flickering text in Vista Ult. poker is pissing me off.
That's what you get for being early Vista adopters. You get to be guinea pigs.
The drivers will come soon enough.
The drivers will come soon enough.
Gamingphreek
Lifer
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Yes but ATI also doesn't have to code for a completely new Video Architecture either.
Irregardless, the drivers are leaps and bounds better from what were released at launch. Outside of bugs, all but DX 10 SLI support is working. This has all happened in a little over a month since release...that is pretty darn good if you ask me.
Just wait, more stable drivers will come in time.
-Kevin
I imagine a lot of the development time was slowed down by the fact that they were also writing drivers for a relatively new product (the 8800 series) at the same time they should have working on 32/64 bit drivers for Vista. I'm actually not surprised they appear to be so far behind.
Vista work for me, but I still do all my gaming under WinXP.
Vista work for me, but I still do all my gaming under WinXP.
install a new, unproven operating system and you're going to run into issues. if you can't deal with that, then don't be an early adopter.
there's a helluva alot more that doesn't work/work well with vista besides video cards (as any owner of a creative product will attest to).
don't buy into microsoft's need for new revenue, upgrade your OS when it's actually a benefit, not a detriment.
there's a helluva alot more that doesn't work/work well with vista besides video cards (as any owner of a creative product will attest to).
don't buy into microsoft's need for new revenue, upgrade your OS when it's actually a benefit, not a detriment.
I think that they should have stable Drivers by now. I here othere's say that is what you get for getting a unproven OS, I disagree look at how stable XP was when it came out. There was also much more support for Drivers for xp it seemed.
Well with SLI you can't have 4 displays so not sure what the problem is. With two cards plugged in, should have no problem enabling 4 displays. Has nothing to do with SLI.
apples to oranges. Just because XP was stable and had drivers, doesnt mean that the same is true for Vista.
As someone said earlier in the thread, Nvidia is not the only company that is having problems with Vista.
Besides, multiple people in this thread alone have said that they are having no problems in Vista with the latest official drivers.
your opinion if flawed because you're comparing apples to oranges.
XP was basically Win2000; the drivers had plenty of development time. Xp > Vista is more like Win9x > Win2k, where the driver situation was just as bad.
you know, the more I think about this, the more amazed i am at those whining about the vista driver situation. you guys have seriously unrealistic expectations.
any programming project with this kind of sophistication (nv's drivers have about the same amount of code as winnt4; about 20million lines) takes a seriously long time to complete. on top of that, they have to develop for both g80 and previous hardware, 32-bit and 64-bit versions, as well as sli & non-sli drviers.. even after core development is done, there are still things like features, ui, and an insane amount of testing required.
12-18 months is not an unreasonable amount of time to develop and test something as complex as drivers for today's gfx cards. if nv had the feature complete specs for vista for 12-18 months, then maybe it might be reasonable to be upset, but the fact is they haven't. vista hasn't even been feature complete for anywhere near that long. in fact it wasn't until vistaRC1 that the current driver model was used.
add to this that g80 has been out less than 6mo, and frankly it's amazing the drivers are as good as they are.
any programming project with this kind of sophistication (nv's drivers have about the same amount of code as winnt4; about 20million lines) takes a seriously long time to complete. on top of that, they have to develop for both g80 and previous hardware, 32-bit and 64-bit versions, as well as sli & non-sli drviers.. even after core development is done, there are still things like features, ui, and an insane amount of testing required.
12-18 months is not an unreasonable amount of time to develop and test something as complex as drivers for today's gfx cards. if nv had the feature complete specs for vista for 12-18 months, then maybe it might be reasonable to be upset, but the fact is they haven't. vista hasn't even been feature complete for anywhere near that long. in fact it wasn't until vistaRC1 that the current driver model was used.
add to this that g80 has been out less than 6mo, and frankly it's amazing the drivers are as good as they are.
Mem
Lifer
- Apr 23, 2000
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Guess you forget the famous crashing with XP and Nvidia drivers when Nvidia first released their drivers for XP,mainly happened on Via based boards.I had that problem too until Nvidia fixed it with a driver update.
XP now has had a good 6-7years of driver support,Vista on the other hand as what 7 weeks or so?
I think Vista is in a better state then XP ever was when it was first released,also Nvidia have gotten lazy over the last few years with their driver updates and quality control, even well before Vista was released,remember when we had regular driver updates in XP,no wonder Nvidia have decided to go back to regular updates ,I think they have relized they have dropped the ball in both parks with XP and Vista.
Main problem with Nvidia and Vista seems to be with 8800 cards.
I don't have any big problems w/ 100.65... my 3D Mark 06 SM2.0 score is messed up and pretty low for some reason, but game performance seems to be good. The only games I've played under Vista are CS: Source and the C&C 3 demo, but I've had no problems with those.
There's been quite a few complaints about Vista and ATI cards also, so expecting anything different from ATI cards once R600 launches is laughable. NV has been releasing new Vista drivers every 2-3 weeks, something me and most XP users weren't real happy about. I'm pretty satisfied now with the 100-series beta drivers for XP though.
Like others, I'll be waiting for a real reason to upgrade to Vista in the form of an actual DX10 game.
Like others, I'll be waiting for a real reason to upgrade to Vista in the form of an actual DX10 game.
I haven't got any problem with 8800GTX and Vista Ultimate 64-bit on 100.65 besides the texas' poker flickering. Give or take, I play only Titan Quest/Immortal Throne and Jade Empire; both games have been performing good. In fact, 8800GTX/XP_SP2 gave me problem with Titan Quest. I am a happy camper with Vista and GTX.
But nVidia utility like nTune; what da $%$^&^%!!! It seems like there is no QA effort on nTune. The latest version said it is support Vista 32/64 bit but the software can't even install correctly; and not to mention working properly. Craps! even a cleaner can find the installation flaw! I would rather not having nVidia released the buggy utility and yet they claim that it is support Vista 32/64 bit.
But nVidia utility like nTune; what da $%$^&^%!!! It seems like there is no QA effort on nTune. The latest version said it is support Vista 32/64 bit but the software can't even install correctly; and not to mention working properly. Craps! even a cleaner can find the installation flaw! I would rather not having nVidia released the buggy utility and yet they claim that it is support Vista 32/64 bit.
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