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When the h3ll is Etch coming out?

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Brazen

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Some of you have already heard of the debacle over the funding of the two release managers to work fulltime on Debian (can't find a link off-hand for those that don't know). So last I heard a bunch of developers quit working on their packages and Etch was going to be late by a few weeks, which would have put it at the end of December.

Now I can't find and recent news, and I would like to know what is going on. That is all.

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Not nessicarially due to the Dunc-tank stuff. December is a ****** month to try to do a release. December is a ****** month for trying to attempt to do anything that would require taking time away from family and vacations. Even if all the developers were happy about it then it probably wouldn't of happenned.

Hopefully it will come out this month. Otherwise if you install using the cdrom for the daily snapshots it will install and run great right now.

Just to wet your appitite (although I've upgraded to Sid) I just did a native 64bit install using Etch.
My impressions: Absolutely wonderfull. Very solid 64bit operating system.

It's a 'Pure 64' release generally, but you can install ia32 compatability libraries most 32bit applications work fine. For those that don't (I was able to get 32bit firefox working fine for my brother, but not for me) you can setup a chroot and use schroot program to launch applications from that as if they were native.

Setting up the environment..
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html">https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html</a>
Works well.

And of course third party support for it is good.
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
for all your illicit media software needs.

And (bonus!) there is a new commercial Debian Etch-based operating system designed specificily for multimedia types wtih 64bit machines.
http://64studio.com/
all sorts of insanity with these guys.

Designed not only be commercially supported, but also (in a very intellegent move) they are working on remaining compatable with Debian Etch. So you can add their repositories and use them in your Debian systems (or install 64studio and use Debian Etch reposotories)

I setup 64studio for my brother. Unfortunately I couldn't get 3d acceleration to work with their heavily patched default kernel (low latency), so I upgraded it to Etch's current kernel. Him and me were playing around with it, with me showing how to use Jack and AMS and we figured out some of the basics of Ardour and were making goofy recordings in 20 minutes of us two playing around with it.
 
Yeah I have thought about using Testing in the meantime ( I assume apt-get would pretty seemlessly upgrade to the final version when it is released), but I keep thinking it's so close, I'll just be patient. grrr...

I think next week, if not tomorrow, I'm going to start testing out, uh, Testing, to get an idea of how it is going to work for me.
 
Originally posted by: Brazen
Yeah I have thought about using Testing in the meantime ( I assume apt-get would pretty seemlessly upgrade to the final version when it is released), but I keep thinking it's so close, I'll just be patient. grrr...

I think next week, if not tomorrow, I'm going to start testing out, uh, Testing, to get an idea of how it is going to work for me.
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Just track "Etch". If you track testing then you'll upgrade to the next testing when Etch is released. But if you track Etch then the transition between 'testing' and 'stable' happens it will pretty much go unnoticed.
 
I just upgraded my sparc64 from sarge to etch and it went surprisingly well, aside from a little reconfiguration everything was happy.

For the most part I don't care about Debian releases, I just track sid so I always have the latest packages available. But it is nice for the press when they're able to release something and it's more convenient to have updated installer discs, installing from sarge and then upgrading to sid is just an annoying extra step.
 
Well, I played around with Etch last Friday and over the weekend. I didn't find any issues with it, and in fact it seems to have fixed a couple issues I was having with Ubuntu Dapper and Debian Sarge. If Etch doesn't get a final release (or at least an announcement) by next Monday, I'm probaby just going to go ahead and install the Testing version of Etch.

By the way, I upgraded a Sarge file server I use for testing to try out Etch and the upgrade went off without a hitch. It did ask a bunch of debconf question, which were mostly just annoying and I didn't tell it to do anything, just "enter"ed my way through them. The upgrade went fine, although if I install it for a Production server I'll just use the Testing netinstall CD, or the Etch CD if it comes out.

And yes, drag, thanks for pointing that out. I'll be sure and double check to make sure I'm tracking Etch.
 
Yea, some of the debconf questions are pointless and I'm not sure why they get asked on the upgrade. But some of them are important since config file formats change, defaults change, etc so you still need to pay attention. The default is to keep your current configs which is usually safe, but you might be missing out on something new or the service might just fail if you're using some config option that isn't supported any more.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
debian-devel is a mailing list so it isn't frozen, etc is frozen.
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etc is a directory that I can write and modify at my whim so it isn't frozen 😀
 
etc is a directory that I can write and modify at my whim so it isn't frozen
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True, I seem to have lost a letter somewhere in there. But etc being frozen is more likely than debian-devel. =)
 
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