When recording at 30 ips

Minerva

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That it takes some bias trickery to get the bass to stay tight?

The highs soar like an eagle at 30 and are smooth as butter!
 

AlienCraft

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I understood immeadiately what you are talking about.
Not really. The best part of 30ips is that there is more "real estate" on which to pack signal. The thing that isn't a good thing is that any transport anomoly or head azimuth error, will render the edges deader than Nixon if the tape starts to skew.
It used to be a common studio technique to place kick on 1 and Bass on 8,16 or 24 (depending on format) so that any azimuth errors would not be so audible.
Any studio that does not tweak the bias for each roll of tape is cheating and probably would sell a used roll of tape as new.
More than a few passes and a tape starts to loose "punch". This is why many producers / engineers will track on 2 inch, transfer to Pro-Tools for Overdubs and edits and then transfer BACK to tape for mixing.
Some will even transfer to a SLAVE roll so that the drums will retain the "punch" and dynamic range of the first passes.

< Recording Engineer for Neal Schon 1993 - 2002, Recording in Analog soince 1967, professionally since 1976
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
I understood immeadiately what you are talking about.
Not really. The best part of 30ips is that there is more "real estate" on which to pack signal. The thing that isn't a good thing is that any transport anomoly or head azimuth error, will render the edges deader than Nixon if the tape starts to skew.
It used to be a common studio technique to place kick on 1 and Bass on 8,16 or 24 (depending on format) so that any azimuth errors would not be so audible.
Any studio that does not tweak the bias for each roll of tape is cheating and probably would sell a used roll of tape as new.
More than a few passes and a tape starts to loose "punch". This is why many producers / engineers will track on 2 inch, transfer to Pro-Tools for Overdubs and edits and then transfer BACK to tape for mixing.
Some will even transfer to a SLAVE roll so that the drums will retain the "punch" and dynamic range of the first passes.

< Recording Engineer for Neal Schon 1993 - 2002, Recording in Analog soince 1967, professionally since 1976

ANALOG RULES. long live mobile fidelity sound lab.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

ANALOG RULES. long live mobile fidelity sound lab.

That's right and BOSE doesn't really suck, either. If the client likes it, WTF do I care what name is on the damn thing?
 

Minerva

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
I understood immeadiately what you are talking about.
Not really. The best part of 30ips is that there is more "real estate" on which to pack signal. The thing that isn't a good thing is that any transport anomoly or head azimuth error, will render the edges deader than Nixon if the tape starts to skew.
It used to be a common studio technique to place kick on 1 and Bass on 8,16 or 24 (depending on format) so that any azimuth errors would not be so audible.
Any studio that does not tweak the bias for each roll of tape is cheating and probably would sell a used roll of tape as new.
More than a few passes and a tape starts to loose "punch". This is why many producers / engineers will track on 2 inch, transfer to Pro-Tools for Overdubs and edits and then transfer BACK to tape for mixing.
Some will even transfer to a SLAVE roll so that the drums will retain the "punch" and dynamic range of the first passes.

< Recording Engineer for Neal Schon 1993 - 2002, Recording in Analog soince 1967, professionally since 1976


Glad to hear someone understood the post. Seems like rude remarks about speaking English prevail on these forums as a masking agent for sheer lack of know-how. Frankly it's out of control.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Minerva
Glad to hear someone understood the post. Seems like rude remarks about speaking English prevail on these forums as a masking agent for sheer lack of know-how. Frankly it's out of control.

Who wants to help idiots? I sure as hell don't.