When people say that they died and went to the other side, do you beieve their stories?

Mai72

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I was just watching a few YT videos on people who have died and who went to the other side. Are these people lying? Misinformed? Or, was it just chemicals firing off when their hearts stopped beating.

What do you guys think?
 

whm1974

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I would that up to chemicals overproduced in the brain during NDE as this what science supports.

Notice how NDE are nearly always based on the people experiencing them deeply held beliefs and cultural background.
 

GobBluth

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No. Anymore I just assume everyone I meet is completely full of shit. And until proven otherwise, will continue to assume such. People lie now worse than they ever did. I listened to a couple (husband and wife) tell a 10 minute story about their travels to Italy, completely in sync with one another, at a social dinner.

They never went to Italy. We proved it and called them out.
 

Paladin3

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I believe that eye witness testimony is one of the most unreliable forms of evidence there is.
 

sandorski

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No. They had something like a Dream. The reason I conclude that is because what is on the "Other Side" is fully dependent and consistent with what their pre-concieved ideas of what they should expect. For eg, Christians see Jesus and/or other Christian concepts of After Life, Muslims see Muslim concepts, Hindus see Hindu concepts, etc etc.
 
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Paladin3

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If it ever happens to me, I hope I run into the God of Tits and Wine.
 

nakedfrog

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I was just watching a few YT videos on people who have died and who went to the other side. Are these people lying? Misinformed? Or, was it just chemicals firing off when their hearts stopped beating.

What do you guys think?
I think the sum of your experience of reality is, as you say, chemicals firing off.
I believe some of them believe what they say, some of them want attention, and some of them want money. Maybe even a combination of all three.
 
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No. Anymore I just assume everyone I meet is completely full of shit. And until proven otherwise, will continue to assume such. People lie now worse than they ever did. I listened to a couple (husband and wife) tell a 10 minute story about their travels to Italy, completely in sync with one another, at a social dinner.

They never went to Italy. We proved it and called them out.
lol. If you're not full of shit yourself seems like an odd scenario. Can't imagine being that level of turd to fabricate a Italy trip with my wife to impress someone.
 
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I have no idea. Sure feels like I'm transported to another world whenever I'm sleeping. Definitely could be another life outside of this one. We're on a fucking giant rock floating through space! And we're fucking monkeys to boot. Anything is possible.
 

whm1974

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If I recall wasn't there a few experiments performed that tricked the brain into overproduction of same chemicals resulting in NDE and duplicated the same exact response with the Near Death?
 

whm1974

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I have no idea. Sure feels like I'm transported to another world whenever I'm sleeping. Definitely could be another life outside of this one. We're on a fucking giant rock floating through space! And we're fucking monkeys to boot. Anything is possible.
And based on exactly what do you base this belief on? We know what causes dreams, your brain while you sleep with REM.

And yes to be exactly pedantic, we are apes on a speck of dust drifting around the Cosmos.
 

Thebobo

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Not I don't believe but you never know how the simulation is working at the moment.
 
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And based on exactly what do you base this belief on? We know what causes dreams, your brain while you sleep with REM.

And yes to be exactly pedantic, we are apes on a speck of dust drifting around the Cosmos.
I gave up religion within the last year or two. My belief that there is possibly something beyond this life is just some weird shit happening in my life that is hard to explain away with science. I'm also open to the idea we are just random living organisms that do nothing more than live then die. It's really hard to pick a side when we really haven't a clue of what is going on. Yes big bang and what not but what started the bang? What is a singularity exactly? Too many big questions to declare a side the winner in my opinion. So I just leave it at I have no idea. Just guesses depending on my mood.
 

Mai72

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No. Anymore I just assume everyone I meet is completely full of shit. And until proven otherwise, will continue to assume such. People lie now worse than they ever did. I listened to a couple (husband and wife) tell a 10 minute story about their travels to Italy, completely in sync with one another, at a social dinner.

They never went to Italy. We proved it and called them out.

lol, wow. Why would they lie about something like that? Seems silly.
 

whm1974

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lol, wow. Why would they lie about something like that? Seems silly.
Pathological lairs who lie about everything? Boring pathetic people who have to make up stories because they never had a life?

Those tow kinds come to mind.
 

Paladin3

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I just woke from a nap, and I think I might have died in my sleep for a few minutes and seen the other side! There was a beautiful light and someone trying to get my attention through the mist, but I couldn't make out who they were. They had a message for me to bring back for one of you.

Is there anyone here who's lost a loved one recently? The name... I'm getting... a "J" name... John? Jeremy? Jimmy? Sam? Bill? Norton? Susan? How about an older gentleman? Or a young woman? Maybe someone's father? Brother? Third cousin?
 

Paladin3

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I have no idea. Sure feels like I'm transported to another world whenever I'm sleeping. Definitely could be another life outside of this one. We're on a fucking giant rock floating through space! And we're fucking monkeys to boot. Anything is possible.

I not a fan of the term "anything is possible" if it's used to justify belief in some unfounded, unscientific theory or idea. Scientific theory and our understanding of the universe around us should be and is BASED ON THE PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE WE HAVE COLLECTED AND ANALYSED SO FAR. We can answer questions such as how did we get here fairly well and I, personally, don't need any religion that concocts an alternate reality we have no evidence of whatsoever which I am supposed to accept based on faith alone.
 

whm1974

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I not a fan of the term "anything is possible" if it's used to justify belief in some unfounded, unscientific theory or idea. Scientific theory and our understanding of the universe around us should be and is BASED ON THE PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE WE HAVE COLLECTED AND ANALYSED SO FAR. We can answer questions such as how did we get here fairly well and I, personally, don't need any religion that concocts an alternate reality we have no evidence of whatsoever which I am supposed to accept based on faith alone.
Science is the best method we have of discovering the truth about the reality we live in. Many hate this due to only wanting to belief what they want to instead of wanting to know the truth.
 

DrDoug

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No. As said above, dead is dead and dead men tell no tales. Or anybody else, for that matter.

If it ever happens to me, I hope I run into the God of Tits and Wine.

If there's a god I hope it's the God of Blackjack and Hookers. Weed too. :D
 

GodisanAtheist

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I've had a couple seizures (I'm better now thanks for asking :p). In the postical state (the calm after the storm) it's like you're a computer that's been reset, slowly regaining function to the point where you are having full conversations with people, interacting, talking, laughing... And you're not even conscious yet. No one is home. I can distinctly remember the moment things went dark and when "I" came back online. My wife describes several minutes of conversation I had with the EMTs, hugs and reassurances I gave my kids. But I wasn't home.

In between is just a dark, empty, calm void in time.

That is what I think death is like.

Otherwise, who knows?
 

whm1974

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No. As said above, dead is dead and dead men tell no tales. Or anybody else, for that matter.



If there's a god I hope it's the God of Blackjack and Hookers. Weed too. :D
I'm one higher then you are, free sex not hookers.