Originally posted by: Dunbar
Originally posted by: her209
I just got an idea...
Someone wants to buy a house. They pay me say 10% of the current value of the house. I front the other 90%. We make an arrangement where you pay me back on a monthly basis (with interest of course). If you fail to pay me back, I get to keep your 10% PLUS your house.
Do you guys think it will work?
As long as you didn't make a business out of it, I don't think any law woud prevent you from doing this. If the buyer is too stupid to sell their house before it gets foreclosed on than they pay the consequences.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
The main reason is for defense purposes.
You can't be well represented if you are sitting in jail for two reasons.
You have limited access to your lawyer.
Your conversions with your lawyer while in jail ARE NOT private.
Loansharking is by definition a loan made without any collateral except the threat of violence.Originally posted by: KnickNut3
Originally posted by: her209
I just got an idea...
Someone wants to buy a house. They pay me say 10% of the current value of the house. I front the other 90%. We make an arrangement where you pay me back on a monthly basis (with interest of course). If you fail to pay me back, I get to keep your 10% PLUS your house.
Do you guys think it will work?
Yes, it's called "loansharking."
Unless you're a bank. Then it's called a "mortgage."
Originally posted by: Vic
Because you cannot post bail for yourself. You're in jail. You have no personal access whatsoever to any accounts or assets you might have. Someone else must do that for you, either a relative or an attorney. Until then, you might be rich as Bill Gates but without cash in your pocket you couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
The main reason is for defense purposes.
You can't be well represented if you are sitting in jail for two reasons.
You have limited access to your lawyer.
Your conversions with your lawyer while in jail ARE NOT private.
What if you have your checkbook?Originally posted by: Whisper
Exactly. When you're booked, if you don't have the money--or at least a certain percentage of it--on you (in the form of cash), you can't post bail for yourself.Originally posted by: Vic
Because you cannot post bail for yourself. You're in jail. You have no personal access whatsoever to any accounts or assets you might have. Someone else must do that for you, either a relative or an attorney. Until then, you might be rich as Bill Gates but without cash in your pocket you couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes.
Originally posted by: her209
What if you have your checkbook?Originally posted by: Whisper
Exactly. When you're booked, if you don't have the money--or at least a certain percentage of it--on you (in the form of cash), you can't post bail for yourself.Originally posted by: Vic
Because you cannot post bail for yourself. You're in jail. You have no personal access whatsoever to any accounts or assets you might have. Someone else must do that for you, either a relative or an attorney. Until then, you might be rich as Bill Gates but without cash in your pocket you couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes.
Originally posted by: her209
Because sitting in a jail cell sucks.
Originally posted by: Dobbs
I just randomly sifted through thie replies and most of it seems to be opinions and not fact.
Generaly a bail bond is issued by a bondsman at ten percent and collateral to cover the entire cost if the "accused" jumps said bail. If you jump bail, its the bondsmans problem to either pay the bond in full or bring you to court. Anyone that has watched the train wreck of a show "Dog the bounty Hunter" can tell you that. Why would you want to make bond and get out of jail? Basicly you stand a greater chance of staying out of jail depending on the crime. This also allows you to secure a private defense which in turn can drag the case out over years instead of weeks if need be. Basic rule of thumb, you get a public defender, your screwed. Your defender has lunch with the other side trying to keep in in jail and you mean noithing to said defender regardless if you are actualy guilty of any crime or wrong doing. They just want to sweep you along and get home in time to watch "insert lame uptight tv show name here".
How do I know,
I wasnt the best person in my teen years but I did not hurt people or delve into drugs. I was however convicted of a crime I did not commit and basicly set up by my public defender. In jail you get no phone call, you get no access to a public defender, nothing the judge says means anything and time is handed out like its free cheeseburgers on skid row. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD PRIVATE DEFENSE! Plain and simple, cut and dry. The judicial system is a joke and so is "a jury of your peers". If you want the legal system to work, you need to have people making decisions that know how things run and not what they have read in a book. You need judges who have been there and done that in regards to spending time locked up. Its sickening when someone who killed a person or molested children gets off with time in a mental ward or a life sentance when someone who gets arrested for grand theft auto yet is driving their own car (yes, it was my own car and not reported stolen) gets 4 years state time. Life is only 7 years before you are up for parole and most get it in that first parole hearing.
How can I get 4 years for grand theft auto by driving my own car that was not reported stolen. Combine it with idiot cops, a judicial system that does not work, hypocritical public defenders and a DA that gets off by handing out maximum sentences when the entire facts of the case have not even been looked into. That is how your legal system runs on a daily basis in Los Angeles, New York, Iowa, you name it. There are people in some states locked up for 15 years for drug posession (personal use by the way) yet a killer can get ou in as little as 4 years from a mental ward and 7 from a state pen. I do not and have not used drugs nor do I smoke or drink, never had a want or reason to. I think instead of locking these people up for most "crimes" commited against themselves (drugs mainly) more focus should be kept on rehabilitaion with a positive outcome on society as a whole. You lock someone up, you are either giving them a failed life or setting them up to learn from everyone else's mistakes to become a better criminal. Jail is a school and will always turn out a better criminal unless the entire system is overhauled starting with the courts.
I could keep going but it just upsets me how bad the system has failed and does so on a daily basis.
You were arrested for GTA while driving your own car that had not been reported stolen and you accepted a plea bargain for 4 years because you thought it would be your word against theirs and you might end up with 22 years? What is is that your not telling us?Originally posted by: Dobbs
yes it adds up because I lived it and there is more to the story but thats ths cliffs notes. Everyone has an opinion though and you are welcome to yours. If you need more info, I was arrested at 19 and finagled my way into the Ca Youth Authority as an "M" number meaning I was sentanced to state prison but was being housed in the CYA. Its been years but there is some legal jargon to file for that and its not something many get to uncover. CYA, even as an "M" number is easier to have removed from a record that time at an actual state prison. Its something I uncovered during my 6 months in the LA county jail trying to fight the case. In the end the judge decided I could serve my time in CYA since it showed I had thought baout my future by looking into it. So gracious of him, if only my case would have gotten so much attention.
If I would have taken my case to trial, its my word against theirs and I would have been looking at 22 years state time if found guilty. Being in the county jail you see people offered 18 months state time before going to trial only to end up actualy going to trial and losing the case and getting 110 or so years. This happened to someone I knew inside in regards to mutliple burglaries he commited while on parole. He was charged with the new burglaries, a parole violation and more time for each prior burglary. Like I said, the system is a joke.
In CYA I went to SRCC for processing to Preston for fire fighting training to Mt Boullion for fire fighting to NRCC for medical reasons to Chad until I could work my way back to Mt Boullion where I was released from. Remember I said jail makes a better criminal and is where I learned to play the system to get what I could out of the situation which is how I ended up where I did most of the time.
If I would have had the money for bail and a private lawyer, I would have never went back to jail and had years of my life wasted by an ignorant judicial system. If anyone has any doubts about what happened to me, it may be a harsh wake up but it happens daily. The system is corrupted to the point a cop is never wrong. How else do you explain being arrested for GTA while driving your own car.
Originally posted by: Vic
Because you cannot post bail for yourself. You're in jail. You have no personal access whatsoever to any accounts or assets you might have. Someone else must do that for you, either a relative or an attorney. Until then, you might be rich as Bill Gates but without cash in your pocket you couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes.