When it rains, it pours - Seagate... 'nuff said

Zap

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I guess I will be joining the legion of owners of broken Seagate drives.

In the space of two days, a 1TB and a 1.5TB Seagate drives died. Both exhibited the same behavior - causing Windows to take forever to boot and not showing up in Windows. They were in separate machines.
 

yh125d

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Glad I went all Samsung, haven't had one of my.... several... exhibit any problems. Sad to see Seagate's reputation slowly withering away :\
 

tcsenter

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Oh hey, but Seagate said that its recent move to shorter warranties was not a reflection of the confidence it had in its products, even though Seagate stated its prior move to five year warranty was a reflection of the confidence it had in its products. :confused:
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: TC91
Just curious Zap, was the 1TB drive a .11 or a .12?

Damn good question. It is a .11. Come to think of it, it might be the 1.5TB drive next to it that is bad instead of the 1TB. I'll have to troubleshoot it later.
 

n7

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I see so many bad 7200.11s @ werk...Seagate has gone way downhill since the days of old, that's for certain.

I just hope no more of mine go.

Already had a couple older 500 GB Seagates go earlier this year.
 

brblx

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i think my 500gb western digital is now dying, after my two seagates.

i've concluded that i will never have a drive shipped ever again. my only trouble-free drive (other than the 1tb wd i just bought) is a 100gb maxtor from best buy.
 

Quiksilver

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My Seagate .8 is still chugging along and so is my Samsung then again my Samsung is less than a year old.

I only had one hard drive ship DOA and that was from WD. It worked for the most part... until you turned off the PC and then BIOS wouldn't detect it. Only way to see it after ward was to unplug power and replug power to it.
 

allies

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My .8 is still going strong as well. Can't believe that I won't even consider them for a current drive.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: yh125d
Glad I went all Samsung, haven't had one of my.... several... exhibit any problems. Sad to see Seagate's reputation slowly withering away :\

seagate rep has gone in the toilet. its not slowly eroding for anyone but their most die hard fans who keep on making excuses for it.
Seagate is a big boy, it doesn't need you (hypothetical you) defending it's honor, and it has to live with the consequences of its actions.
 

F1shF4t

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Bought 2 seagate .11 1 tb drives about 4 months ago. One kicked the bucket with bad sectors and stopped being detected in bios after about a month.
The funny thing was, I read about the issues online, went home during lunch break and had a look at the drives and what do you think? At that moment one had started failing :p. Luckily all the data on it I had backed up, cause i couldn't get anything off it.

For my storage drives I now use WD greens and samsungs, none of them seem to have any problems so far. Still have a couple of older seagates working fine though one 320gig .10 and one 500gig .11.
 

Zap

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So far I've only worked on retrieving data from one of the 1.5TB drives. I've probably recovered over a terabyte of data from it. Important stuff is backed up so this is just stuff that would be handy to have, not essential. Basically it is hooked up to a spare system and I boot it up and start copying stuff off it. Sooner or later it stops working and I turn it off for a while. Then an hour or two later I boot up the system and it works again. Funny, that. If I reboot, it usually still doesn't work. One file would not read, CPU-Z 1.49 zip. Guess I really don't need multiple versions of CPU-Z. :eek:
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: brblx
i think my 500gb western digital is now dying, after my two seagates.

i've concluded that i will never have a drive shipped ever again. my only trouble-free drive (other than the 1tb wd i just bought) is a 100gb maxtor from best buy.

I prefer to purchase retail-box HDs for that very reason. It seems to eliminate the possibility of shipping damage.
 

BaDaBooM

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Been out of the game a bit, so if Seagate's rep is down.... who's is up? I saw a couple posts for Samsung. Are they the new "reliable" brand?
 

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I personally run 9 x 7200.11 1.5TBs CC1G/CC1H drives in a RAID 6 at home, no issues so far aside from one drive racking up some reallocated sectors of which I've already replaced.

Personally, I'm fine with Seagate, but there definitely was a problem with their 7200.11 firmwares as of late, though some claim it's been fixed, though I don't know how accurate such claims are.

As for other brands, take your pick, really. Samsung certainly has improved over the years, making fast and quiet drives with their Spinpoint F1 and F2 drives; WD's 640GB drive was phenomenal, and a lot of people like their WD Black Caviar series of drives as well.
 

yh125d

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Originally posted by: BaDaBooM
Been out of the game a bit, so if Seagate's rep is down.... who's is up? I saw a couple posts for Samsung. Are they the new "reliable" brand?

WD is as great as ever, especially their black line (for performance) and green (for storage/low power/quiet). Another good company is Samsung yes, as their spinpoint F1 1TB is neck for neck with the caviar black. Personally I go with samsung, as its usually ~$1-5 cheaper than WD and subjectively it's quieter
 

Zap

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Alright, the 1TB 7200.11 drive is dead. When it is hooked up, the computer won't go past detecting drives on POST.

The 1.5TB 7200.12 passes quick and extended SeaTools tests. I started a full zero write this morning before leaving for work. So, could it just be a case of file or filesystem corruption? Should I trust data to it again, or should I try RMAing it? Oh yeah, what was the "bad" firmware? I see they have firmware updates for some drives - would doing that be worthwhile?
 

RebateMonger

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Originally posted by: Zap
Oh yeah, what was the "bad" firmware? I see they have firmware updates for some drives - would doing that be worthwhile?
If the drive was built after mid-December, 2008, then the firmware is probably fine. But if Seagate shows replacement firmware for it, then I'd flash it.
 

RanDum72

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I think people and consumers in general have very short memories. Western Digital had a reputation in the past of having short-lifetime harddrives. Samsung went thru that phase also. Seagate has been very good until recently so they are going thru the same stages.
They will probably fix it in later revisions of the drive.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: RanDum72
I think people and consumers in general have very short memories. Western Digital had a reputation in the past of having short-lifetime harddrives. Samsung went thru that phase also. Seagate has been very good until recently so they are going thru the same stages.
They will probably fix it in later revisions of the drive.

Short memories? its called deductive reasoning... having had problems many many years ago is irrelevant. RIGHT NOW seagate drives are crap, samsung and WD are reliable. To ignore the present and live in the past is delusion
 

rlim111

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I don't wanna keep all my files in a terabytes drive. If something bad happened such as mechanical failure, the chance to get all of your files back is not easy.

 

yh125d

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Originally posted by: rlim111
I don't wanna keep all my files in a terabytes drive. If something bad happened such as mechanical failure, the chance to get all of your files back is not easy.

And when you have a lot more smaller drives, your chances of one of them failing raises much higher
 

Syntax Error

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9 x ST31500341AS on my 9650SE-16ML in RAID 6, no problems so far except for a few drive timeouts which I believe was caused by one faulty drive.