When it comes to Opterons Iam i correct by saying......

[necro007]

Hi.

Anyway Iam i right by saying that it is:

1....It is Faster if you increase the FSB then it is to increase the multi eg.

9x267=2.4Ghz, 8x300=2.4Ghz....A PC setup like that would be faster then a PC setup like this 10x240=2.4Ghz(and i am not saying a PC with 10x240=2.4Ghz is slow).

2.....The reason is cause you have an increase in memory bandwidth but having a setup like that (9x267=2.4Ghz, 8x300=2.4Ghz) is not good cause you are putting alot more presure on your mobo.

3....And if you were to have a setup like this (10x240=2.4Ghz) there would not be so much presure on the mobo.

4....Also it gives you some head room as its always better to have a higher multiplier because you can lower it if needed.

Originally posted by: robertk2012


Its always better to have a higher multiplier because you can lower if needed. If your not limited by your motherboard (if you get a decent motherboard you probably will not be) you will not need a higher multiplier. Its up to you if its worth paying for the extra headroom that may or may not come into play.

Is any of what you have just read correct?

Any views or opinions are welcome.

As a side note i plan on getting a Opteron and, to me it will make it a little easier if i get the Opteron 170 (even though its more) cause i will have the headroom if i do need to drop the multi.

And i will get this mobo with the Opteron.

Any one has any opinions on that mobo.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[d3lt4]

the mobo is cheaperhere.

 

[nealh]

from what I have seen there is no difference bewteen 8x 300 or 9 x 267...

also the link at newegg does not have all the extras as your link...but do you need all the extra stuff..I have this mobo and it is very nice but takes alot of tinkering to OC it stable

also the mobo is finicky with ram....

 

[robertk2012]

With that board you could get by with the 9x multiplier of the 165.

Now to your questions

1. Slightly....if you increase your ram along with the FSB.....the gain is very small though.

2. That lanparty can handle those FSB easy either way but it does put more pressure on the MB

3. Again pleny of us wiht 165 who are putting much more pressure on the MB with no problems

4. Yep its better but you have to pay for that increased multiplier

 

[necro007]

Originally posted by: d3lt4
the mobo is cheaperhere.

The mobo that i posted is from a site that ships to Canada and Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.

Originally posted by: nealh
from what I have seen there is no difference bewteen 8x 300 or 9 x 267...

also the link at newegg does not have all the extras as your link...but do you need all the extra stuff..I have this mobo and it is very nice but takes alot of tinkering to OC it stable

also the mobo is finicky with ram....

1...How much tinkering did you have to do.

2...Also If i do get this board it is going to be the first DFI board i ever had. I know it has SLI but i'm really sure i'm never going to use it, so mabe geting a that board is a waste of time i'm not sure.

3...Do any of you guys think its silly to Get that Mobo if i am not going to use SLI?

4...Another question if i got that board right now with the CPU and everything else needed, could i just plug evereything up and would it work or do i have to start tinkering with the settings from the first, just to get my PC up and running doest it work perfect from startup and i would only need to start to tinkering when i choose to oc or somthing?

5..Is it annoying to set it up cause of all the settings and stuff?

Also would you guys agree that the Opteron 170 is good but not worth it for the price but if i could get it slightly cheaper or more closer in terms of price to the Opteron 165 it is worth it.

Thanks for all the replies any more will be great.

robertk2012 Thats one nice oc with that Opteron 165 are you using water cooling or air, also are you happy with your Opty 165?

nealh same with you, are you using water cooling or air, also are you happy with your Opty 170?

 

[necro007]

bump..anyone...

 

[AkumaX]

i did some quick benchines w/ my x2 3800+ (normal is 10 x 200)

when i did 10 x 240, 9 x 267, and 8 x 300, there was virtually no difference for me (if there was, i attribute it to margin of error)

HOWEVER

i set the ram so that it was @ 200fsb every time. it 'might' make a bigger difference if your ram was in sync, 1:1 with the cpu...

 

[necro007]

bump...

 

[robertk2012]

1. Not much. It just doesnt like you leaving it on auto settings when you overclock.

2.. You probably wont use Sli so you might be better of with a different lanparty version. The Ultra can be modded to a sli if need be. ot you can go with the DFI NF4 ultra for under $90.

3...Yes I do

4...Noone can answer that. It should but there may always some slight problem that you have to work out. I know there have been problems with corsair ram with the dfi boards but I have yet to experience any problems.

5..Nope its simple and there is plenty of info out there to help. And you can always post here for help.

If you can get it for about the same price or just a little more then I would go for it. Anything more than $50-60 I dont see as being woth it.

Mine is air cooled. I love how people always say nice overclock. Its nothing that I did....its more luck of the draw.

 

[necro007]

robertk2012, what type of board should i get then cause it does not make sence if i go and get a sli board i will never use sli.

Also i don't want to pay $170 for a cheap DFI board and i am not going to be able to oc my Opteron to its max.

What DFI or any board would you recomend for me, say i can spend $250 to $300 can on it.

Thanks for the help.

 

[TrevorRC]

Necro, throwing money at something doesn't mean it will be BETTER.

It's people like you that would buy the Fatal1ty motherboard.

The DFI Ultra-D is going to be able to overclock the Opteron to the max, and BEYOND. Normally they can hit ~400HTT stable, and the most you'll ever touch is ~350, TOPS. (Assuming you ran phase or something.)

The DFI Ultra-D, which is ~110 at Newegg, will do anything and everything you need it to.
End of story.

Please, Google around before asking questions.

-T

 

[robertk2012]

DFI ultra was my reccomendation. like trevor said its around 110 at new egg and will be all you need. $170 isnt a cheap DFI board. Even the cheap DFI infintys for $75 will overclock more than what most people would ever think about needing. Great value board. THe northbridge/southbridge fan is a little noisy on those though.

 

[necro007]

Originally posted by: TrevorRC

Necro, throwing money at something doesn't mean it will be BETTER.

It's people like you that would buy the Fatal1ty motherboard.

The DFI Ultra-D is going to be able to overclock the Opteron to the max, and BEYOND. Normally they can hit ~400HTT stable, and the most you'll ever touch is ~350, TOPS. (Assuming you ran phase or something.)

The DFI Ultra-D, which is ~110 at Newegg, will do anything and everything you need it to.
End of story.

Please, Google around before asking questions.

-T

I seen that mobo and i can't buy from newegg cause they don't ship to Canada.

I can get it for $120-$150 can.

 

[robertk2012]

Originally posted by: necro007

Originally posted by: TrevorRC

Necro, throwing money at something doesn't mean it will be BETTER.

It's people like you that would buy the Fatal1ty motherboard.

The DFI Ultra-D is going to be able to overclock the Opteron to the max, and BEYOND. Normally they can hit ~400HTT stable, and the most you'll ever touch is ~350, TOPS. (Assuming you ran phase or something.)

The DFI Ultra-D, which is ~110 at Newegg, will do anything and everything you need it to.
End of story.

Please, Google around before asking questions.

-T

I seen that mobo and i can't buy from newegg cause they don't ship to Canada.

I can get it for $120-$150 can.

we were just giving you rough prices so you know what to look for. That is the board i would go with.

 

[nealh]

if I recall correctly the DFI SLI-DR has additional SATA ports?

 

[robertk2012]

Do you think he is going to need them? I know there is a minimum of 4 on any of the DFI boards.