When it comes to accepting a job how important is dignity vs money?

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pcgeek11

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why would you consider these "bus driver, garbage man, mail man, dock workers etc" unskilled jobs?
they might not all that desirable but unskilled is questionable.

Maybe because very little skill is required to perform these jobs.
A better term would probably be Low Skilled Jobs.
 

JJChicken

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If the job needs to get done and supports your financial goals there's no shame in taking any job out there. Somebody's got to take away garbage or load up trucks and there's nothing wrong with someone choosing to do that if that gets them what they want.

This.
 

JJChicken

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I don't judge, nor do I look up or down at anyone who works for a living. Judging others because of their job is an inaccurate measure of their existence. Someone has to do every job that allows us to live as we do, the garbage collector, the retail clerk, the warehouse drone and the forklift driver. No one of us has a job that can't be filled by someone else, but all of us are are necessary to keep the wheels of society turning.

Nice way to think about it :thumbsup:
 

BoT

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Maybe because very little skill is required to perform these jobs.
A better term would probably be Low Skilled Jobs.

i am just saying, that those type of jobs are often underestimated in skill sets and frequently looked down upon because they are rather common and not exciting. they all play a vital roll in every bodies everyday living and many of us would certainly feel the pinch if those jobs would not be occupied.
 

Gooberlx2

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I completely don't care what someone else might think about my job. And that's not really what dignity is about. Dignity has more to do with self-respect, which is going to be affected by how much you like/dislike or respect/disrespect your own work.
 

TwiceOver

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For me it is never dollar vs dignity. It is Family Needs vs What people I don't care about think of me.

So far it has served me well.
 

Gibson486

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Electricians make more than Electrical Engineers alot of times. Would I be an Electrician though? hell no.
 

Vonkhan

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I have an office in a pretty plush building near Times Sq and have to wear a nice suit to work everyday. I still envy the construction crew guys who get to work outdoors. I'd trade it in any day if I could
 

MetalMat

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You have to do something to pay the bills, even if its on the low end. Tell that to my bum brother lol.
 

BurnItDwn

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I don't give a rats ass about how dignified the job is. If I could make more money being a garbage man, and if I liked the smell of garbage, then I would do it. I don't enjoy the smell of garbage though, so I'll stick with IT as that's what I'm good at.
 

Evadman

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I don't judge, nor do I look up or down at anyone who works for a living. Judging others because of their job is an inaccurate measure of their existence. Someone has to do every job that allows us to live as we do, the garbage collector, the retail clerk, the warehouse drone and the forklift driver. No one of us has a job that can't be filled by someone else, but all of us are are necessary to keep the wheels of society turning.

:confused; Who are you and what did you do with HappyPuppy?
 
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What a joke. Please don't look down on us blue collar workers from your pedestal. You're fucked up on life man. I don't look down on any job. I look down on stupid people that think a job/money defines who you are as a person. I've meet janitors, garbage men, etc that You wish you could grow up and be half the man they are.
 
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Alienwho

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The only jobs I look down on are MLM scum and those 35 year old douchebags standing around in best buy trying to sell you a sprint evo 4g phone or whatever BS they're trying to pull. Oh, and also anybody who calls themselves a "Financial Advisor", because those guys are just snakeoil salesmen.

Yes I do realize there are some legit financial advisors, but the only ones I've ever met are high school dropout losers that are trying to sell whatever BS policy their cult leader is conjuring up. These are actually MLM's.

Loan officers are next on the list of BS jobs I look down on. Very similar to financial advisors where most are high school dropouts that shovel the BS on heavy.
 

PricklyPete

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A job is a job. As long as I feel I'm not doing something that I find ethically or morally wrong, I could care less what others might think of the job. My only caveat would be if I think that the job would hold me back from whatever future employment plans I may have.

To me the bigger question is enjoyment of the job vs. pay. I couldn't give a rats ass what people think of the job.
 

KIAman

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I went from a DBA/security software developer into the trades (plumbing/gas/HVAC) and IMHO there is not thing wrong with it. My ex mother in-law may think differently than I'm but it doesn't matter to me as my health/happiness is what important.

PS. My current job is physically demanding and is dirty/greasy, but the end of my nose isn't anywhere as brown as my old desk jobs. The best part of the work in the trades is that my work week is exactly 40 hours instead of the 50+ hours a week in IT.

I had an almost opposite change of careers. I used to wrench when in college and worked 50-60 hours making decent change. Then got a degree in CS and work in IT and make about 5x what I did and work exactly 40 hours a week and I love it.
 

Locut0s

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What a joke. Please don't look down on us blue collar workers from your pedestal. You're fucked up on life man. I don't look down on any job. I look down on stupid people that think a job/money defines who you are as a person. I've meet janitors, garbage men, etc that You wish you could grow up and be half the man they are.

Excuse me? Where the fuck did I say I looked down on these jobs!? Might want to reread what I posted. I said SOCIETY looks down on these positions. And if you don't think that by and large society does then you aren't living in reality. I never said for one second that I look down on them. I don't, never have and never will. What I said was that since society looks down on some of these jobs (not all of them) that a lot of people wouldn't be willing to do them party because of this. Please don't put words in my mouth.
 

Locut0s

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I don't much care at all about public perception but you are defining dignity incorrectly, at least as far as I consider it. Fixing cars or cutting wood is not undignified. Acting like and being treated like a bitch by your boss despite making good salary, that is undignified, and I wouldn't take it unless I was in a bad spot an had to make cash.

Do you really care what your neighbors think about your job? If you enjoy it, make good money, it has a future, etc. who cares whether it's cardiac surgery or cleaning sewer scum? Now, there are some lame ass jobs like cashier, those are really below human capability, but tricky or dangerous jobs that give a good bit of money are more meaningful.

Why do people read into my post that I look down on these positions? I DON'T, I was saying that society by and large does. At least from my experience it often does.
 

bfdd

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I quit 80k+ a year because the company I worked for refused to pay me higher wages for working outside my pay grade, even when I knew they were doing it for other people I was working with, people who had been with them for a shorter amount of time. I refuse to kiss anyones ass and since it was obvious the only way they would treat me better was to get on my knees and kiss some ass I walked. Fuck that.
 

rudeguy

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Money is money.

As long as its an honest living, I'm good. I'm a salesman and have been for 11 years. I've sold for companies that I didn't believe in and it sucked. I would never do that again.

My current job is very low on the totem pole. I'm a call center peeon. I have 8 bosses. I get bitched out by crazy people every day. But I also get to help people that are able to be helped. I make very good money doing it.

Your original question actually comes down to your own pride. Those jobs that you say society looks down on are actually jobs you look down on. A job is a job. Once you learn that you aren't entitled to jack shit in this world...the world becomes a much easier place to live in.
 

bfdd

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Money is money.

As long as its an honest living, I'm good. I'm a salesman and have been for 11 years. I've sold for companies that I didn't believe in and it sucked. I would never do that again.

My current job is very low on the totem pole. I'm a call center peeon. I have 8 bosses. I get bitched out by crazy people every day. But I also get to help people that are able to be helped. I make very good money doing it.

Your original question actually comes down to your own pride. Those jobs that you say society looks down on are actually jobs you look down on. A job is a job. Once you learn that you aren't entitled to jack shit in this world...the world becomes a much easier place to live in.

amen brother. there isn't a goddamn job in the world i wouldn't do if i needed a job.
 

Raduque

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About the only job I find degrading and would outright refuse to do is anything dealing with human bodily waste - no cleaning up piss shit or vomit.
 

SparkyJJO

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Money isn't everything. Neither is "dignity" - I want a job that I like to do and as long as the pay is enough I'm happy. I wouldn't go to a job I liked less because it paid me $10k more, unless it was necessary because the current didn't pay enough to pay the bills or something.
 

Raduque

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My current job is very low on the totem pole. I'm a call center peeon. I have 8 bosses. I get bitched out by crazy people every day. But I also get to help people that are able to be helped. I make very good money doing it.

I did this for a lot of years. I didn't really enjoy it, it's a high-stress environment and that's what ultimately made me quit. It also pissed me off because, despite the fact that I didn't enjoy it, I was really good, consistently one of the top 5 performing reps, and I got paid pretty good too.