When is the next generation of videocards coming up?

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I'm probably gonna upgrade my whole desktop in the next 6 months but I would hate to get a videocard and one month later a new Radeon/nVidia lineup comes up that is 50% faster for the same price. So when is the new significant graphic performance increase expected? Particularly I'm thinking about more than 2 GB VRAM becoming cheaper as I have to plan for Skyrim's successor and its high-res texture mods (sometimes my Skyrim exceeds 2GB of VRAM use even now).
 
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dennilfloss said:
So nothing significant planned for this summer?
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I myself am waiting for the next proper Graphics Cards and not just re-engineered ones. You have a 750w PSU so why not add another HD 7850? I got my second one about 6-9 months ago as I have been waiting too, it has made such a difference for £100 and they are only getting cheaper :) You could then split the cost, get a CPU/Motherboard now then a nice big GPU later if needed!
 
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dennilfloss said:
I'm probably gonna upgrade my whole desktop in the next 6 months but I would hate to get a videocard and one month later a new Radeon/nVidia lineup comes up that is 50% faster for the same price. So when is the new significant graphic performance increase expected? Particularly I'm thinking about more than 2 GB VRAM becoming cheaper as I have to plan for Skyrim's successor and its high-res texture mods (sometimes my Skyrim exceeds 2GB of VRAM use even now).
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That will always happen. Probably not 50% but 20-30% easy. I'd say a 4770 and a 780Ti will be certainly sufficient for a while yet. The x4 is a really bad bottleneck by now:

http://www.techspot.com/review/787-thief-benchmarks/page4.html

x4 980 = 35 FPS

i5 = 65 FPS
 
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Apple and Qualcomm are at the front of the line when it comes to TSMC's 20 nm fabs. AMD and nVidia are going to have to wait.
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You mean something like 20nm are one-size-fits-all-shoe, that just about everyone wants,
but TSMC had failed to predict this huge demand, so now they are cutting lose smaller customers?
I doubt things work like that in semic. industry.

That entire story started here.
Turned out to be completely bogus. From Char-lies Maxwell perf/Watt percentages to NV choice of big-die Maxwell.
It's just another part in his infinite obsession with Nvidia/JHH and their inherently broken architecture and yields.

http://focustaiwan.tw/news/atod/201312050035.aspx

A senior TSMC executive revealed recntly that the company will begin 20nm production in the first quarter of 2014,
contributing to the company's revenue in the following quarter.

Industry sources said TSMC's 20nm production capacity has been booked up with orders from industry giants including Apple Inc., Qualcomm Inc., Xilinx, Altera, Supermicro, NVIDIA, MediaTek and Broadcom Corp.
 
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You probably should upgrade your CPU first before investing money in a new GPU.
 
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dennilfloss said:
I'm changing the whole thing (except the monitor). Will probably get a 4670k to replace my 955BE .
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Aren't we expecting new intel CPU's before next generation of GPU's? Sometime this summer we should see something from intel?

I don't keep up with the CPU side as much but I'm sure someone knows the answer to this.
 
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VulgarDisplay said:
Aren't we expecting new intel CPU's before next generation of GPU's? Sometime this summer we should see something from intel?

I don't keep up with the CPU side as much but I'm sure someone knows the answer to this.
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Haswell-E is slated for Q3 2014. I haven't heard anything concrete on the 20nm GPUs though.
 
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About the earliest we could see new cards is June/July. Really depends how early their wafer starts are. We just don't know that information and Nvidia/AMD are not telling us anything about the next cards as per usual.
 
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I really want some sort of significant release before the witcher 3 hits, i have a feeling it's going to eat cards up at higher res.
 
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BrightCandle said:
About the earliest we could see new cards is June/July. Really depends how early their wafer starts are. We just don't know that information and Nvidia/AMD are not telling us anything about the next cards as per usual.
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This is what I would expect with TSMC's 20nm process moving earlier this year. An end of 2014 launch for 20nm video cards would imply significant yield and production problems, which would probably delay the ARM parts too.

Aeiou said:
I really want some sort of significant release before the witcher 3 hits, i have a feeling it's going to eat cards up at higher res.
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Keep in mind that CDP's 'minimum' hardware is the Xbox One and its Radeon 7790 equivalent video card. Not exactly high end, though the PC will definitely be playing it at 1080p or higher instead of the 720p/medium settings of the XB1.
 
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f1sherman said:
You mean something like 20nm are one-size-fits-all-shoe, that just about everyone wants,
but TSMC had failed to predict this huge demand, so now they are cutting lose smaller customers?
I doubt things work like that in semic. industry.
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Its very simple. Who wants to pay most gets the wafers. 28nm for example started at around 7500$ per wafer. Today it cost 2000$ or so.

Apple and Qualcomm will be able, and willing, to pay more than AMD and nVidia.

So while everyone orders, its still a queue system.
 
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The bad thing is that nvidia will come first and they will price it to the moon. They will most likely follow the same price/performance line as the current generation or near to it. The 880 will probably be ~25-30% faster than the R9 290 and cost $599.
 
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Subyman said:
The bad thing is that nvidia will come first and they will price it to the moon. They will most likely follow the same price/performance line as the current generation or near to it. The 880 will probably be ~25-30% faster than the R9 290 and cost $599.
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Most likely it won't be the full-fledged Maxwell part either. NV isn't exactly hurting for marketshare so I could see this coming gen playing out the same. Release a Titan Mk. II six months after the 880 for $1000, then a few months after that a slightly cut down 980 at $700.
 
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x3sphere said:
Most likely it won't be the full-fledged Maxwell part either. NV isn't exactly hurting for marketshare so I could see this coming gen playing out the same. Release a Titan Mk. II six months after the 880 for $1000, then a few months after that a slightly cut down 980 at $700.
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I can pretty much guarantee it won't be the big chip. We will cycle through the 680 situation again. Performance/watt will be nice, but absolute performance probably won't be mind blowing. We will certainly get a Titan Two for a wad of cash.
 
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f1sherman

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Most definitely something along those lines.
Going smaller die first allows them to finely tune architecture/process and deploy bigger dies risk-free down the road.

Who the heck throws everything in like there is no tomorrow anyway?

PS
spectacular pics dennilfloss :thumbsup:
 
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