When is it time to put a pet down?

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JoeyP

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At first, I thought the picture of the dog in front of the smoker was just a harmless coincidence. Now after reading more from the OP, I am not so sure.
 

Fausto

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Rice has arsenic, fish has mercury, read meat is bad for you, whiskey damages your liver, smoking gives you cancer,,,,.

So what?

God damn, Tex. Every time I think you have reached the pinnacle of stupid, you go and top yourself.
 

Fausto

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I think the real question you are trying to ask here is whether or not you should off yourself. Almost every thread you make is a "question" (I put this in quotes because you post them not really wanting to hear the answers no matter how concisely we type them out for you) related to how incredibly shitty you quality of life has become. Sure, you rationalize it as "simple is better" but the bottom line is that you are a fat, miserable alcoholic who lives in a trailer and fixes the printers in an office nobody cares about in a county nobody cares about.

Fix your shit or shut the fuck up already. We don't care about your chickens, your dog, your ex-wife, her husband, your welfare-slurping friends, or any of the rest of it.
 

Texashiker

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Fix your shit or shut the fuck up already. We don't care about your chickens, your dog, your ex-wife, her husband, your welfare-slurping friends, or any of the rest of it.

Is anyone "making" you read these threads?

Your life must be pretty petty to gloat over my miniscule issues.
 

Perknose

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OP, you come across very poorly in this thread. It's not the first time for you, either.

I hope you're a much better person IRL, if just for your poor dog's sake. :(
 

Texashiker

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OP, you come across very poorly in this thread. It's not the first time for you, either.

I hope you're a much better person IRL, if just for your poor dog's sake. :(

My wife and I have taken good care of this dog. My wife had the dog when we met, so it was a package deal.

When the neighbor shot the dog, we took it to the vet, had the leg removed (on advice from the vet), which cost us a couple of thousand dollars for the surgery and a week in the hospital. Even though the blood trail started on the neighbors driveway, there was no way we could prove who shot the dog, so my wife and I were on the hook for the medical bills.

The dog has a heavy blanket folded in half to sleep on, we give it soft food, keep up with its shots, give it a flea pill to keep fleas off,,,, even cut some of the dogs food up for it.

End of life is something we all have to face. At what point is life not worth living?

As for the m&ms, I only gave him 1 or 2 every few days.

But then again, we all have habits that are bad for us. How many of us eat red meat, cheeseburgers, pizza, smoke, dont get enough exercise, drink in excess,,,,.

How is this dog any different then must of us will face at the end of our lives?


Sure, you rationalize it as "simple is better" but the bottom line is that you are a fat, miserable alcoholic who lives in a trailer and fixes the printers in an office nobody cares about in a county nobody cares about.

I needed to pause before I replied to that comment,

I am about 30 pounds overweight, alcohol is an everyday battle, a battle that I choose to fight instead of give up on, I am mostly content and happy with my life.

As for living in a trailer, its a double wide modular home. If you have an issue to someone buying a home they can afford, then that is a problem within yourself. I see no reason to buy something I can not afford.

One of my life goals is to live "well" within my means. If a means to that goal is buying a less expensive product, then so be it.

I do more then fix printers, that shows you little you actually know.
 
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Fausto

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My wife and I have taken good care of this dog. My wife had the dog when we met, so it was a package deal.

When the neighbor shot the dog, we took it to the vet, had the leg removed (on advice from the vet), which cost us a couple of thousand dollars for the surgery and a week in the hospital. Even though the blood trail started on the neighbors driveway, there was no way we could prove who shot the dog, so my wife and I were on the hook for the medical bills.

The dog has a heavy blanket folded in half to sleep on, we give it soft food, keep up with its shots, give it a flea pill to keep fleas off,,,, even cut some of the dogs food up for it.

End of life is something we all have to face. At what point is life not worth living?

As for the m&ms, I only gave him 1 or 2 every few days.
So, you spend money and time on the dog and then quietly try to poison it. You did the former because you couldn't stand up to your wife with your opinion that the dog was not worth saving, and the latter because you're pouting about having to spend money on the dog. Nice. Again; VERY Christian of you.

But then again, we all have habits that are bad for us. How many of us eat red meat, cheeseburgers, pizza, smoke, dont get enough exercise, drink in excess,,,,.

How is this dog any different then must of us will face at the end of our lives?
The dog is not sentient and therefore aware that you are poisoning it. It's basically not any different than giving a kid a "couple glasses" of wine cooler every day.

As Perky alluded, you are a bad person. You made a lifetime of shitty choices and now you're paying for it and taking everyone around you down.
 

Perknose

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Just answer the question.

Why should a promise to a pet be held at a higher standard then other promises we make?

What about a promise to our children to buy them that special toy, or a promise to a spouse to never cheat on them?

Any promise you make in your life should be kept, to the very best of your ability. Keeping your promises goes to the core of who you are as a human being. If nothing else, it's a matter of self-respect.

Break a promise to a pet and all hell breaks lose.

There is a reason people respond poorly to those who abuse or neglect pets. It's because pets are entirely dependent on us. It's the same reason people respond more poorly to a large man punching a frail kid than they might to a large man punching another large man. That other large man can presumably fend for himself. The frail kid, and the pet dependent on us for their care and protection, cannot.

Do you REALLY not understand any of this? o_O

OP, I hope you're just a crabby asshole who needs to vent his "crabby asshole" side here but who isn't really the huge douche you come across as. :(

Now go clip your poor pooch's nails.
 
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OP probably spends more time with and treats better, his stupid as bbq smoker thing than he does with his dog. What a loser.
 

Texashiker

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Any promise you make in your life should be kept, to the very best of your ability. Keeping your promises goes to the core of who you are as a human being. If nothing else, it's a matter of self-respect.

At what point in life is it ok to break a promise?

You promise to love, honor and cherish your wife until death do you part. Then she gets on crack and starts pimping out the kids.

We can only keep a promise as long as its viable to do so.

We promise to take care of a dog, but should we run the family into bankruptcy taking care of it?


There is a reason people respond poorly to those who abuse or neglect pets. It's because pets are entirely dependent on us. It's the same reason people respond more poorly to a large man punching a frail kid than they might to a large man punching another large man. That other large man can presumably fend for himself. The frail kid, and the pet dependent on us for their care and protection, cannot.

Do you REALLY not understand any of this? o_O

I fully understand your examples, but we are not talking about children, or mean people.

We are talking about a pet that is reaching its end of life.

My grandfather suffered from Alzheimers for several years. The effects of the conditions overwhelmed the emotions of the family.

My grandfather signed a living will saying not to extend his life. If he had not done so, when should the family have let him go?

At what point should we let go of a pet that we have cared for and loved? Which is the higher degree of love, to end suffering, or to extend the suffering?


As Perky alluded, you are a bad person. You made a lifetime of shitty choices and now you're paying for it and taking everyone around you down.

You dont know jack crap.

Your opinion of me has nothing to do with end of life choices.
 
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Just answer the question.

Why should a promise to a pet be held at a higher standard then other promises we make?

What about a promise to our children to buy them that special toy, or a promise to a spouse to never cheat on them?

Break a promise to a pet and all hell breaks lose.

What is the difference between a dog and a livestock animal? We agreed to take care of both, but its ok to butcher a chicken at will, but we have to take care of a dog or cat for life?

So your intent for this thread was never to ask a legit question about the quality of life about your pet, but rather was to start an argument about pets vs livestock or whatever the hell you wanted it to be.
 

BudAshes

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Put it down when it's no longer a good pet and has no chance of ever being one again. Time to let the little guy go. I cried every time I put one of my animals down but I never regretted it afterwards because I knew it was time to let them go.
 
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Texashiker

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So your intent for this thread was never to ask a legit question about the quality of life about your pet, but rather was to start an argument about pets vs livestock or whatever the hell you wanted it to be.

Pets vs livestock is the other thread.

My wife cancelled the appointment at the vet. We agreed to continue taking care of the dog until it passes.
 

Perknose

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My wife and I have taken good care of this dog. My wife had the dog when we met, so it was a package deal.

When the neighbor shot the dog, we took it to the vet, had the leg removed (on advice from the vet), which cost us a couple of thousand dollars for the surgery and a week in the hospital. Even though the blood trail started on the neighbors driveway, there was no way we could prove who shot the dog, so my wife and I were on the hook for the medical bills.

The dog has a heavy blanket folded in half to sleep on, we give it soft food, keep up with its shots, give it a flea pill to keep fleas off,,,, even cut some of the dogs food up for it.

End of life is something we all have to face. At what point is life not worth living?

This is the unbelievably tough question you are now facing with your pooch. Please try to do so with more grace and humanity that you have shown here in this thread. You should know that doing so will benefit you, too.

As for the rest of your blather above, I think I get it. You resent the dog. It wouldn't have been your choice to have kept him.

Listen up, this is for you: Don't be that small, resentful shit. It diminishes who you are, and spreads low-grade unhappiness in ripples all around you.

As for the m&ms, I only gave him 1 or 2 every few days.

Jesus Hume and Mary, if you ever see a shrink, be sure to ask him why you did this. o_O

But then again, we all have habits that are bad for us. How many of us eat red meat, cheeseburgers, pizza, smoke, dont get enough exercise, drink in excess,,,,.

How is this dog any different then must of us will face at the end of our lives?

And we're back to you. You. You. You. You are unhappy with yourself, and the coming end of your pooch's life provokes your fear of your own fragile mortality.

Yeah, you're going to die. We are all going to die. While you are here, being as true to your own personal integrity as you can will give you the most peace you can earn. You can't bullshit your own conscience.

You have let yourself down at times and you know it. Welcome to the club, bub. Not one of us internet giants is perfect, or has led a perfect life. But, each day gives us the opportunity to do better. Start with your pooch. Take a little time to hold and comfort him today. If you let yourself do this, guess what? You might just feel better all around. It's the magic of giving of yourself to others. It increases your self-esteem.

Right now, your sour postings indicate to me that yours is kinda' low. ;)
 

Rakewell

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Pets vs livestock is the other thread.

My wife cancelled the appointment at the vet. We agreed to continue taking care of the dog until it passes.

I've watched people gang up on you in many of your posts, Tex.

It may or may not be you. But in light of this thread, I would:

1.) Stop posting threads with rhetorical questions
2.) Look at yourself and re-examine what you hope to gain by being so argumentative.

Just my 2 cents.
 

BudAshes

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Pets vs livestock is the other thread.

My wife cancelled the appointment at the vet. We agreed to continue taking care of the dog until it passes.

This is a bad idea in my opinion. Don't sacrifice your own happiness for a dog after you have already given it a good long life.
 

Texashiker

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Listen up, this is for you: Don't be that small, resentful shit. It diminishes who you are, and spreads low-grade unhappiness in ripples all around you.

Right now, your sour postings indicate to me that yours is kinda' low. ;)

What am I supposed to do, move out of the house?


Jesus Hume and Mary, if you ever see a shrink, be sure to ask him why you did this. o_O

The dog likes m&ms, what is there to say?

I have not given him any in a couple of years.


I've watched people gang up on you in many of your posts, Tex.

It may or may not be you. But in light of this thread, I would:

1.) Stop posting threads with rhetorical questions
2.) Look at yourself and re-examine what you hope to gain by being so argumentative.

Just my 2 cents.

Thank you for your 2 cents.

There is a big difference between the internet and how people act in real life.

Not too many people share parts of their life like what I am doing in this thread. This opens me up for attacks and insults.

I see it as the pack mentality, people see a weakness, or an open spot, and they attack it.

Don't sacrifice your own happiness for a dog after you have already given it a good long life.

I have been sacrificing my happiness to keep this dog alive.

I get so sick and tired of it barking, whining, pissing and crapping on the floors,, sick and tired.

Sooner or later, with X amount of stress, anything will break. I feel that I am at the breaking point with this dog.
 
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Fausto

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You dont know jack crap.

Your opinion of me has nothing to do with end of life choices.
Bullshit. As usual, you ignore everything in a thread you don't want to hear.

You hate this dog. You only spent money on surgery because you can't stand up to your wife (just like you couldn't stand up to your ex-wife). Afterwards, you're secretly mad about it so you've been trying to quietly poison the dog. "Oh, it's only a couple M&Ms a day...sure I know that the theobromine in chocolate is lethal to dogs, but it's really not any different than me knocking back a bunch of booze and fried food every day, right?"

So now, the dog is old enough that its quality of life is borderline and you're STILL too big of a bitch to talk it over with your wife, so you bring your shit to us. Again.

So yeah, I know jack crap. It's hard not to know when you lay out your whole pathetic life for us to read day after day. :rolleyes: