when drug laws go wrong..

waggy

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tribstar.com

CLINTON ? When Sally Harpold bought cold medicine for her family back in March, she never dreamed that four months later she would end up in handcuffs.

Now, Harpold is trying to clear her name of criminal charges, and she is speaking out in hopes that a law will change so others won?t endure the same embarrassment she still is facing.

?This is a very traumatic experience,? Harpold said.

Harpold is a grandmother of triplets who bought one box of Zyrtec-D cold medicine for her husband at a Rockville pharmacy. Less than seven days later, she bought a box of Mucinex-D cold medicine for her adult daughter at a Clinton pharmacy, thereby purchasing 3.6 grams total of pseudoephedrine in a week?s time.

Those two purchases put her in violation of Indiana law 35-48-4-14.7, which restricts the sale of ephedrine and pseudoephedrine, or PSE, products to no more than 3.0 grams within any seven-day period.

When the police came knocking at the door of Harpold?s Parke County residence on July 30, she was arrested on a Vermillion County warrant for a class-C misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of up to 60 days in jail and up to a $500 fine. But through a deferral program offered by Vermillion County Prosecutor Nina Alexander, the charge could be wiped from Harpold?s record by mid-September.

Harpold?s story is one that concerns some law-abiding citizens who fear that innocent people will get mistakenly caught in the net of meth abuse roundups.

But the flip side of the story comes from the law enforcement arena, which is battling a resurgence in methamphetamine production in the Wabash Valley.

As the 12th-smallest county in the state, Vermillion County ranked as the state?s fifth-largest producer of methamphetamine just a few years ago.

?I don?t want to go there again,? Alexander told the Tribune-Star, recalling how the manufacture and abuse of methamphetamine ravaged the tiny county and its families.

While the law was written with the intent of stopping people from purchasing large quantities of drugs to make methamphetamine, the law does not say the purchase must be made with the intent to make meth.

?The law does not make this distinction,? Alexander said.



yeah what bullshit. i have always thought the laws reguarding cold medicines were bullshit and wondered how many people get nailed for it whent hey are not doing anything wrong.

this is a case where when they get the facts they should drop all charges instead of offering her "Harpold said she did go talk to the prosecutor about the situation, and Alexander offered her the deferral program, in which Harpold is required to pay the court costs, abide by all laws and not be arrested for 30 days. At the end of 30 days, the class-C misdemeanor will be erased from her record"































 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: waggy
this is a case where when they get the facts they should drop all charges instead of offering her "Harpold said she did go talk to the prosecutor about the situation, and Alexander offered her the deferral program, in which Harpold is required to pay the court costs, abide by all laws and not be arrested for 30 days. At the end of 30 days, the class-C misdemeanor will be erased from her record"

Completely agree.
 

AstroManLuca

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I like the huge gap at the end of your post

But yeah, I do agree with you. It's ridiculous that she accidentally broke a law that was stupid and poorly written to begin with, and now they act like SHE's the one who ought to pay for it.
 

darkxshade

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She should serve more time in maximum since it was with intent to distribute. This cannot stand!!!
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I like the huge gap at the end of your post

But yeah, I do agree with you. It's ridiculous that she accidentally broke a law that was stupid and poorly written to begin with, and now they act like SHE's the one who ought to pay for it.

yeah don't know what happened. i didn't add that space!

 

Kadarin

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While I understand the need to restrict the sale of ingredients that are used to manufacture meth, the laws should both be written better and enforced with more common sense.

Pfft, what the hell am I thinking, like that would ever happen...
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Sedition
Ridiculous, but not surprised. Thank the patriot act.

What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with this at all.

This law was passed to try to stop or slow down meth production as psudoephedrine HCL is one of the primary ingredients.
 

BoomerD

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The laws concerning pseudoephidrine are stupid knee-jerk reactions to a serious problem and won't really do a dammed thing to slow/stop meth production. The dammed Mexicans smuggle in everything else they need for the crank labs, having to smuggle sudafed across really won't make a dent in the problem.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Sedition
Ridiculous, but not surprised. Thank the patriot act.

What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with this at all.

This law was passed to try to stop or slow down meth production as psudoephedrine HCL is one of the primary ingredients.

You right wing hack! It's clearly Bush's fault!
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Originally posted by: TruePaige
When drug laws go wrong?

When do they go right?

This.

for serious.

make laws. production is still a problem...enforce laws against people who have no good reason to expect they'd be arrested for buying OTC medicine.

meh.
 

Sedition

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Sedition
Ridiculous, but not surprised. Thank the patriot act.

What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with this at all.

This law was passed to try to stop or slow down meth production as psudoephedrine HCL is one of the primary ingredients.

Have you ever read the thing you sign when you buy psuedoephedrine? They clearly state that they are maintaining records in compliance with "The Patriot Act".

You know I thought you were more of a Libertarian and would be against a law that monitors any citizen's purchases.
 

jdjbuffalo

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"Harpold said she did go talk to the prosecutor about the situation, and Alexander offered her the deferral program, in which Harpold is required to pay the court costs, abide by all laws and not be arrested for 30 days. At the end of 30 days, the class-C misdemeanor will be erased from her record"

I tell them to go F* themselves. I'm not going to pay court costs and go through this crap. What happens if she accidentally does it again? Does she get 2 years in jail?

This should be easy to argue in front of a jury and win.

Originally posted by: TruePaige
When drug laws go wrong?

When do they go right?

Also This.
 

0roo0roo

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its missing the point anyways, if theres a ton of meth its because the underlying society/economy have become sh*t. fighting the drug at that point is stupid.
 
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How many counties does Illinois have? They say that's the 12th-smallest county, but the 5th largest producer of meth in the state. Well if the state only has 12 counties, then that county seems to be doing fairly well from a not-producing-as-much-meth-as-the-rest-of-the-state standpoint.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Zero tolerance equals zero intelligence.

+1.

If we're making laws for robots, we might as well have robots enforce them. They'd be much more efficient and fair, as well as commanding a much lower salary.
 

KevinH

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Originally posted by: Sedition
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Sedition
Ridiculous, but not surprised. Thank the patriot act.

What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with this at all.

This law was passed to try to stop or slow down meth production as psudoephedrine HCL is one of the primary ingredients.

Have you ever read the thing you sign when you buy psuedoephedrine? They clearly state that they are maintaining records in compliance with "The Patriot Act".

You know I thought you were more of a Libertarian and would be against a law that monitors any citizen's purchases.


It's true. That portion of the Patriot Act was snuck in there to combat meth production so you're both right. ONe of many little things added in that has ZERO to do with terrorism.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Sedition
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Sedition
Ridiculous, but not surprised. Thank the patriot act.

What the hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with this at all.

This law was passed to try to stop or slow down meth production as psudoephedrine HCL is one of the primary ingredients.

Have you ever read the thing you sign when you buy psuedoephedrine? They clearly state that they are maintaining records in compliance with "The Patriot Act".

You know I thought you were more of a Libertarian and would be against a law that monitors any citizen's purchases.

I didn't say I liked the idea of this stupid law. They had been talking about it before the patriot act. Sorry about that. Guess they just bundled it in there.
 

marvdmartian

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She should tell the DA to stuff it, then demand a trial by jury. She could represent herself, tell the jury she did exactly what they said she did, that it wasn't for cooking meth, that she didn't realize she was breaking a law, and that the whole thing was ridiculous......then pray to God she doesn't get some morons on the jury that will knee-jerk convict her.

Any jury worth a damn will let her go, and give a dirty look to the idiot DA.