When did college students become such lazy pieces of crap

[eflat]

Really does anyone consider this?

College used to be an intellectual place. With the exception of a few good colleges they have all turned into party schools.

I'm down to have some fun now and then, or at least let others have some fun, but isn't it time students started doing something?

Like planning a date to go march on the capital and protest all the fee hikes? Would you, if you were a college student, be prepared to miss a week of school to drive down to the capital and raise some hell? Or are we all just going to sit by and be the laziest piece of crap generation yet?

Just some food for thought

 

[Crusty]

My state capital building is 3 blocks from campus... I wouldn't have to miss a week of class.

Oh, and shouldn't this be in P&N?

 

[Dedpuhl]

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

 

[S Freud]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

QFT

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

Not to mention all the college students on ATOT who can barely spell their names.

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

I don't think it's an "intellectual place" because it's become a business of selling people peices of paper that allow them to get higher salaries.

 

[Pabster]

LOL @ the P&N reference ... that's a good place to look for some of these "lazy pieces of crap" who can't spell let alone produce any coherent sentences.

 

[hans007]

atheletes have always been able to go to the best schools.

sure at some of the lower tier schools out there, it is getting bad. but at the top tier places i think its just as good if not better. well theres more diversity so there is a wider variety of opinions heard.

its sort of strange, i went to one of the higher UC schools in california and the difference between say a UC and a Cal state school, judging from the type of behavior i've seen at work, and the type of conversations you can have is staggering. yes call me condescending and elitist i know what i'm typing is flamebait, but you see people acting like middle school kids at work, and its 99% certain they went to a cal state or no college. they are more fun though. maybe it is just my work, but then again almost anyone who makes it through high school can go to a cal state in california.

 

[mfbf]

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

I don't think it's an "intellectual place" because it's become a business of selling people peices of paper that allow them to get higher salaries.

That and everybody is told that they should go to college. I teach at two different colleges and I don't think everybody should be pushed to go to college. Some people just can't keep up with the other students but it has become a business where education is not the most important result. It is all about how much money can be broght in to the school so it is frowned upon to fail to many students so just like in high schools now, they get by without learning the basics.

Just look at how many adjunct professors teach now. If they were interested in education, they would hire full-time professors who could donate more of their time to improve a course but it is about saving money, not having to pay full-time salaries or benefits and not carrying about the students education but about going through the motions of getting the job done. It really sucks for anybody who really wants to teach at the college level .

 

[ColdFusion718]

Originally posted by: nthedrk

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

QFT

 

[jemcam]

College used to be an intellectual place. With the exception of a few good colleges they have all turned into party schools.

Umm no, college has always been a party place throughout history. Just ask someone your parents age, your parents won't tell the truth to you about what they did.

 

[tennisflip]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug

College used to be an intellectual place.

It's no longer an "intellectual place" because anyone can go. Heck, you have athletes that can barely spell their names going to top universities because they are good at sports.

I'd say it depends on where you go.

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

You can choose where you want to go. If you wanted to go to an "intellectual" place hopefully you were able to get accepted and then did choose that school. If you want to party, then it's easy for you.

My school is pretty far from a party place... definitely not known for that.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: jemcam

College used to be an intellectual place. With the exception of a few good colleges they have all turned into party schools.

Umm no, college has always been a party place throughout history. Just ask someone your parents age, your parents won't tell the truth to you about what they did.

I dunno about "throughout history" but definitely for the past 50 years.

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Like planning a date to go march on the capital and protest all the fee hikes? Would you, if you were a college student, be prepared to miss a week of school to drive down to the capital and raise some hell?

No, I would not be willing to miss a week of school to go b!tch about something that will not change. I spent my time in school learning, not training to be a hippy. I didn't have the time, desire, or money to waste on protesting while I was in school.

I guess some people have to find a way to fill their days up when they are poking along at 12 hours a week. Engineering did not afford any of its students such luxury.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Like planning a date to go march on the capital and protest all the fee hikes? Would you, if you were a college student, be prepared to miss a week of school to drive down to the capital and raise some hell?

No, I would not be willing to miss a week of school to go b!tch about something that will not change. I spent my time in school learning, not training to be a hippy. I didn't have the time, desire, or money to waste on protesting while I was in school.

I guess some people have to find a way to fill their days up when they are poking along at 12 hours a week. Engineering did not afford any of its students such luxury.

i was an engineering major, but i've got very strong political views. i probably would have done it, but there was never a cause i cared much about though we had a lot of stupid protests around ucla for stupid things.

the engineering thing though is interesting. i've got some friends who majored in political science from school. and what they said was this.

when an engineering major grabs the la times, they dont read it, they just want it for the frys ad. if you care about the world, you read the other parts of it, so they were actually impressed that i read the rest of the paper.

if the cause was one i believed in i'd go for it. you are in college, do something activist its the best time to. besides you can skip class and get away with it. california is a pretty big state, and it would not take a whole week to drive to the capitol and back.

 

[esun]

I think you're wrong. Colleges are still intellectual places. There are a lot of people here to party--I'll give you that--but there are also a lot of hard-workers and intellectuals. You may be surprised, but a lot of the partiers are actually also intellectuals. You may be hanging around the wrong college environment, but as a student in college I know there are plenty of people here doing good work.

 

[SNiPeRX]

I see nothing wrong with having a good time in college... I just finished this past May, and to tell you the truth I wish I went out and did more things. Never had the time to do those things. Now I guess you can say I am in the real world. No smoking and joking everynight with the guys, no xbox till 2 in the morning. I was a double major and had an average of 21 hours a semester. I busted my ass to have decent grades. I was never prepared to miss a week or school. I think my time at college was spent the right way. I will let all the people from worthless colleges go bitches and protest. Sorry, but I had actual work to do. Not to mention it was a military college... wouldnt look that good if I went out to protest.

Just my 2 cents

Also.. the part about athletes at top schools that can hardly spell their name? What school and what is their name? I seriously doubt that statement is correct. ****** take Furman University... outside LB Freeman. He had 19 college credits when he entered Furman and I believe he will grad. early. Just an example, don't really think it is fair to generalize athletes in that way.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: jemcam

College used to be an intellectual place. With the exception of a few good colleges they have all turned into party schools.

Umm no, college has always been a party place throughout history. Just ask someone your parents age, your parents won't tell the truth to you about what they did.

It was a party place in that people were exploring their minds and bodies like they never had before. This was back before casual sex was the norm.

Now that it is the norm, and a college party is no different than a high school party, there ceases to be much in the way of intellectual exploration. Hence the stagnation.

 

[eflat]

Originally posted by: SNiPeRX
I see nothing wrong with having a good time in college... I just finished this past May, and to tell you the truth I wish I went out and did more things. Never had the time to do those things. Now I guess you can say I am in the real world. No smoking and joking everynight with the guys, no xbox till 2 in the morning. I was a double major and had an average of 21 hours a semester. I busted my ass to have decent grades. I was never prepared to miss a week or school. I think my time at college was spent the right way. I will let all the people from worthless colleges go bitches and protest. Sorry, but I had actual work to do. Not to mention it was a military college... wouldnt look that good if I went out to protest.

Just my 2 cents

Also.. the part about athletes at top schools that can hardly spell their name? What school and what is their name? I seriously doubt that statement is correct. ****** take Furman University... outside LB Freeman. He had 19 college credits when he entered Furman and I believe he will grad. early. Just an example, don't really think it is fair to generalize athletes in that way.

Indeed a lot of the gifted athletes I know are also very intelligence.

The good spatial awareness that allows athlets to perform is an intellectual gift all of its own. It's just a different one.

But really a lot of gifted people in more traditional intellectual ways are often also gifted athletes. They might just not chose that route.


I would agree that the stupid jock stereotyle is often just that. I can, however, think of a large number of blatant exceptions

 

[Hubris]

Pfft. You should go to the libraries here at Cornell on a Friday night. They're friggin packed with kids. An education is what you make of it; but just flat out condemning an entire generation as lazy just makes you look foolish.

As for stupid jocks, why don't you come sit in on my Literary Theory course and hear a "dumb jock" talk about Derrida, Foucault and Chomsky. I'm sure you'll marvel at how well he spells his name.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SNiPeRX
I see nothing wrong with having a good time in college... I just finished this past May, and to tell you the truth I wish I went out and did more things. Never had the time to do those things. Now I guess you can say I am in the real world. No smoking and joking everynight with the guys, no xbox till 2 in the morning. I was a double major and had an average of 21 hours a semester. I busted my ass to have decent grades. I was never prepared to miss a week or school. I think my time at college was spent the right way. I will let all the people from worthless colleges go bitches and protest. Sorry, but I had actual work to do. Not to mention it was a military college... wouldnt look that good if I went out to protest.

Just my 2 cents

Also.. the part about athletes at top schools that can hardly spell their name? What school and what is their name? I seriously doubt that statement is correct. ****** take Furman University... outside LB Freeman. He had 19 college credits when he entered Furman and I believe he will grad. early. Just an example, don't really think it is fair to generalize athletes in that way.

So you give one example of an athlete, going to some unheard of school, who is an intellectual. Bravo, you just destroyed his argument!