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When can I completely build my dream system?

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song414

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Ok after getting 8fps in COD2 at 1024x768 i realized my r9800 pro wasnt cutting it.

Now i want a good long term investment as far as upgrading my system is concerned. I did my research and want more than just a computer. I want a complete entertainment system that will last me a few years with minimal upgrades.

Now here is what i want:

Monitor: Dell 2407fpw
Video Card/s: New nvid card coming out in feb OR 2 7800gt's when they drop down in price a little
Motherboard: NF4 chipset mobo with sli support and x2 dual core support
RAM: 2 gigs of pc3200 ram
Harddrive: Currently have 20 gig and 80 gig. Thinking about getting a 160gig to replace 20 gig.
CPU: xp 3200. Maybe overclock it a bit if need be. Will this be my bottleneck in games?
Case: Picked this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144102
Keyboard mouse: chose mx 3100. I currently have mx518 but i have big hands and its too light and i like wireless.
Soundcard: x-fi extrememusic
Speakers: Keeping my z5300's


Thats about it i think. Anyways it comes to roughly 2 grand. Now what i want to know is this a good setup? I plan to play the best games with the best settings. Also hook xbox360 and ps3 to my monitor and play in HD. I plan on playing movies as well. Any idea as to when this system can be completed. I wanted to get this system around feb vacation for me which starts feb 20th. Im holding off watching anything and playing all games until i upgrade so i can get the full experience. Im ordering most of my stuff through zipzoomfly besides the case and the HD and obviously the monitor. What i want to know is, if it is a good investment? I want a long term computer that will last me a long time. Hopefully 4-5 years. I want the monitor to last like 7-10 years.
 
Opteron 165 and overclock.
Wait for r580 on Jan 24th
2 gigs of ram
DFI mobo
seasonic S12-500/600 PSU

The rest up to you. The monitor choice is good. Again I am the type who would rather buy mid-high end and replace it every 2 years than buy uber high end for 2-3x the price and keep it for 4-5 years. So I would probably consider 7800GTX or X1800XT or 2nd best R580 board even when top of the line R580 comes out. I wouldnt spend $100 extra on opteron 170 either.
 
monitor wont last u 7-10 years. by 2016, we'll all be running projectors or something of the sort, no more lcds.
 
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Opteron 165 and overclock.
Wait for r580 on Jan 24th
2 gigs of ram
DFI mobo
seasonic S12-500/600 PSU

The rest up to you. The monitor choice is good. Again I am the type who would rather buy mid-high end and replace it every 2 years than buy uber high end for 2-3x the price and keep it for 4-5 years. So I would probably consider 7800GTX or X1800XT or 2nd best R580 board even when top of the line R580 comes out. I wouldnt spend $100 extra on opteron 170 either.
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is that the cheapest dual core? also the xp3200 a64 is what i meant sorry. Want a socket 939 board.
 
Look at my sig... it only took me 1300 bux to build this baby after a lot of shopping and waiting for good deals.

That is minus the RAM (from old comp) and the speaker system (which I use for cable TV, DVD player and Computer)

EDIT: I actually just calculate my receipts and I only spent $1246.45 for my rig. A rig that dell and alienware would sell for $3500+
 
Originally posted by: song414
is that the cheapest dual core? also the xp3200 a64 is what i meant sorry. Want a socket 939 board.
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xp3200 a64 or the a64 3200+? i think you mean 3200+.

what did you mean in your topic summary when you said some of the stuff isn't even out yet? all of that stuff is out already
 
There is no future-proof dream system.

Socket939 is pretty mature now, so you should be looking at a low-end dual core and overclocking, or a high-end dual core if you don't want to overclock. But for maximum performance, you may be permanently limited to 2gigs of ram; if you wait for AMD with ddr2 support, you can probably hit 4gigs or higher without sacrificing memory timings. (I haven't kept entiely up on this to know if the newest 939 processors handle 4 dimms@ddr400 1t.

High-end video cards are always ridiculously expensive; rather than trying to 'future-proof this, get somehting that reviews tell you will do everything you want it to do now, and plan to buy again in a year or two, when the rest of your system will most likely still be up to the task. Unless something revolutionary changes, today's high-end processor will still be adequate in 3-4 years, but the video card will not be, no matter what you buy (if you want reall good gaming performance, that is).
 
Originally posted by: alimoalem
Originally posted by: song414
is that the cheapest dual core? also the xp3200 a64 is what i meant sorry. Want a socket 939 board.
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xp3200 a64 or the a64 3200+? i think you mean 3200+.

what did you mean in your topic summary when you said some of the stuff isn't even out yet? all of that stuff is out already
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the dell 2407 fpw isnt and the new nvid card coming out isnt. Im not talking about the 512 gtx...
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
There is no future-proof dream system.

Socket939 is pretty mature now, so you should be looking at a low-end dual core and overclocking, or a high-end dual core if you don't want to overclock. But for maximum performance, you may be permanently limited to 2gigs of ram; if you wait for AMD with ddr2 support, you can probably hit 4gigs or higher without sacrificing memory timings. (I haven't kept entiely up on this to know if the newest 939 processors handle 4 dimms@ddr400 1t.

High-end video cards are always ridiculously expensive; rather than trying to 'future-proof this, get somehting that reviews tell you will do everything you want it to do now, and plan to buy again in a year or two, when the rest of your system will most likely still be up to the task. Unless something revolutionary changes, today's high-end processor will still be adequate in 3-4 years, but the video card will not be, no matter what you buy (if you want reall good gaming performance, that is).
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i dont want the best but i pretty much need the best. I want to plat FEAR and COD2 on my monitor's native resolution with everything on high (softshadows off) since native resolution is so high i dont mind turning aa and af off since most of the jaggies will be gone at that resolution anyway. a 7800 gt wont be enough for that either. Also this is a GAMING system i dont plan on encoding while i game but are programmers planning to implement dual core support so i can get a increase of fps in certain games later on? Would make sense doing that for physics and such. I wont be doing multitasking much and would like to save money every place i can

 
Originally posted by: song414
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
There is no future-proof dream system.

Socket939 is pretty mature now, so you should be looking at a low-end dual core and overclocking, or a high-end dual core if you don't want to overclock. But for maximum performance, you may be permanently limited to 2gigs of ram; if you wait for AMD with ddr2 support, you can probably hit 4gigs or higher without sacrificing memory timings. (I haven't kept entiely up on this to know if the newest 939 processors handle 4 dimms@ddr400 1t.

High-end video cards are always ridiculously expensive; rather than trying to 'future-proof this, get somehting that reviews tell you will do everything you want it to do now, and plan to buy again in a year or two, when the rest of your system will most likely still be up to the task. Unless something revolutionary changes, today's high-end processor will still be adequate in 3-4 years, but the video card will not be, no matter what you buy (if you want reall good gaming performance, that is).
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i dont want the best but i pretty much need the best. I want to plat FEAR and COD2 on my monitor's native resolution with everything on high (softshadows off) since native resolution is so high i dont mind turning aa and af off since most of the jaggies will be gone at that resolution anyway. a 7800 gt wont be enough for that either. Also this is a GAMING system i dont plan on encoding while i game but are programmers planning to implement dual core support so i can get a increase of fps in certain games later on? Would make sense doing that for physics and such. I wont be doing multitasking much and would like to save money every place i can
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There are already games that are multithread coded, and you can expect most to be like this from now on, between dual core and hyperthreading as relatively mature technologies.

If you want to save some money, but need a very high-end video card, I think the best place to skimp is to get a low-end dual core processor, and plan to upgrade or overclock as needed. With a little research on steppings, there won't end up being a lot of difference in final clockspeed between low and highend X2 processors. For a straight gaming system, I wouldn't even consider an intel processor at this time (of course, six weeks from now, that could all be different). You're going to want 2gigs of ram to play games, and like I said, there may still be issues with upgrading beyond 2gigs and maintaining memory performance. If that's the case, I would wait for the new AMD processors, as I doubt at this point that 2gb ddr chips will ever become mainstream or affordable (since they're already bordering on obsolete). This will probably give you the advantage of getting to evaluate intel's new line as well before you buy.
 
i don't see how it's getting to 3g's but yea, 2 is a little harsh. u can buy a 1k now, a 1k in a year or two 😛
 
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