When are they going to send this Cindy Sheehan to Jail...

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm basing my assessment on what she says, how she says it, her mannerisms (including body posture, facial expressions, how her eyes move), what she's said in the past, who she keeps around her, as well as some of the other issues surrounding her.

Hey! You're just like "Doctor" Frist diagnosing Terry Schiavo based on a video and zero in-person experience. Classy! As I've intimated in previous posts, don't try and pass off your opinion as fact.

It would help if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Here's what I said previouly:

"Nope. I also believe she's shamelessly using her dead son as little more than a prop to further her newly radicalized political agenda. This "protest" seems to be more about Cindy than Casey."

So stop trying to pass off my opinions as fact, please, and then jumping on your strawman high-horse. It comes off as pompous and arrogant which, frankly, is my impression of you.

Look I could give two craps about Sheehan personally, and while I sympathize with her cause as she's laid it out, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and defend her ad nauseum.

But what I can tell you is quite interesting is the righties foaming at the mouth trying so desperately to tear her down and dig up dirt on her. The only reason the right is reacting like this is because Sheehan's managed to get a little media attention over her stunt. The only result of all this blathering and screams of "liar" and bad-mouthing of Cindy is that it will perpetuate what would be a short-lived media blip.

Strange. The folks I see "foaming at the mouth" are people like Cindy, the groups supporting her, and many of the rabid Bush bashinistas in here.

The loopers seem so eager to jab Bush in any way they can, they're off and running with this desperately hoping it has legs. Like so many things they've run with since Bush has been in office, they're only ending up falling flat on the faces, once again.

Oh get real. This woman is within her rights to do what she is doing irregardless of what you or anyone else thinks her motives are. Supporting her right to protest has nothing to do with bashing Bush, it has to do with civil liberties. Everybody has them, even Bush haters. Too bad, so sad.

For Christ sake, get a clue.

How about you get a clue?

I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

Here's a brilliant idea, how about arguing her point instead of resorting to personal attacks? You're free to criticize her all you want, but the fact that this is the only argument I ever see from most of you guys about anyting is "telling" as well.

How about you join in the discussion yourself instead of playing self-appointed mod? Then maybe you'll see that the argument has been more than just personal attacks, and many of the personal attacks have come from my opposition, not me.

What telling is how those on the left completely ignore or block out the foibles of their own ideological kind to take a jab at others.

 

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm basing my assessment on what she says, how she says it, her mannerisms (including body posture, facial expressions, how her eyes move), what she's said in the past, who she keeps around her, as well as some of the other issues surrounding her.

Hey! You're just like "Doctor" Frist diagnosing Terry Schiavo based on a video and zero in-person experience. Classy! As I've intimated in previous posts, don't try and pass off your opinion as fact.

It would help if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Here's what I said previouly:

"Nope. I also believe she's shamelessly using her dead son as little more than a prop to further her newly radicalized political agenda. This "protest" seems to be more about Cindy than Casey."

So stop trying to pass off my opinions as fact, please, and then jumping on your strawman high-horse. It comes off as pompous and arrogant which, frankly, is my impression of you.

Look I could give two craps about Sheehan personally, and while I sympathize with her cause as she's laid it out, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and defend her ad nauseum.

But what I can tell you is quite interesting is the righties foaming at the mouth trying so desperately to tear her down and dig up dirt on her. The only reason the right is reacting like this is because Sheehan's managed to get a little media attention over her stunt. The only result of all this blathering and screams of "liar" and bad-mouthing of Cindy is that it will perpetuate what would be a short-lived media blip.

Strange. The folks I see "foaming at the mouth" are people like Cindy, the groups supporting her, and many of the rabid Bush bashinistas in here.

The loopers seem so eager to jab Bush in any way they can, they're off and running with this desperately hoping it has legs. Like so many things they've run with since Bush has been in office, they're only ending up falling flat on the faces, once again.

Oh get real. This woman is within her rights to do what she is doing irregardless of what you or anyone else thinks her motives are. Supporting her right to protest has nothing to do with bashing Bush, it has to do with civil liberties. Everybody has them, even Bush haters. Too bad, so sad.

For Christ sake, get a clue.

How about you get a clue?

I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

I bet the CIA would be interested in your talents, TLC. Considering you can simply watch a video and determine whether someone's lying or not! How reliable is that BS-detector of yours and does it work on your own statements or conveniently only on others?

:laugh:

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

And just for the record, what side of the Swifty boat were you on? Were you defending them or criticizing them?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

ANd the swifites were lying out there ass. Now prove Cindy is. Links please.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm basing my assessment on what she says, how she says it, her mannerisms (including body posture, facial expressions, how her eyes move), what she's said in the past, who she keeps around her, as well as some of the other issues surrounding her.

Hey! You're just like "Doctor" Frist diagnosing Terry Schiavo based on a video and zero in-person experience. Classy! As I've intimated in previous posts, don't try and pass off your opinion as fact.

It would help if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Here's what I said previouly:

"Nope. I also believe she's shamelessly using her dead son as little more than a prop to further her newly radicalized political agenda. This "protest" seems to be more about Cindy than Casey."

So stop trying to pass off my opinions as fact, please, and then jumping on your strawman high-horse. It comes off as pompous and arrogant which, frankly, is my impression of you.

Look I could give two craps about Sheehan personally, and while I sympathize with her cause as she's laid it out, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and defend her ad nauseum.

But what I can tell you is quite interesting is the righties foaming at the mouth trying so desperately to tear her down and dig up dirt on her. The only reason the right is reacting like this is because Sheehan's managed to get a little media attention over her stunt. The only result of all this blathering and screams of "liar" and bad-mouthing of Cindy is that it will perpetuate what would be a short-lived media blip.

Strange. The folks I see "foaming at the mouth" are people like Cindy, the groups supporting her, and many of the rabid Bush bashinistas in here.

The loopers seem so eager to jab Bush in any way they can, they're off and running with this desperately hoping it has legs. Like so many things they've run with since Bush has been in office, they're only ending up falling flat on the faces, once again.

Oh get real. This woman is within her rights to do what she is doing irregardless of what you or anyone else thinks her motives are. Supporting her right to protest has nothing to do with bashing Bush, it has to do with civil liberties. Everybody has them, even Bush haters. Too bad, so sad.

For Christ sake, get a clue.

How about you get a clue?

I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

Here's a brilliant idea, how about arguing her point instead of resorting to personal attacks? You're free to criticize her all you want, but the fact that this is the only argument I ever see from most of you guys about anyting is "telling" as well.

How about you join in the discussion yourself instead of playing self-appointed mod? Then maybe you'll see that the argument has been more than just personal attacks, and many of the personal attacks have come from my opposition, not me.

What telling is how those on the left completely ignore or block out the foibles of their own ideological kind to take a jab at others.

I have joined the discussion, several times in fact. And I'm not trying to play mod, I'm simply suggesting that maybe these relentless personal attacks against Sheehan aren't really necessary. Fine, you disagree with her, I get it. But in light on the fact that her son died in Iraq, doesn't it seem reasonable that we can discuss this without the excessive bashing going on in this thread? I'm not pointing the finger at you in particular, but let's remember we're posting in a thread suggesting she should be sent to jail for what she's doing.

And while I'll admit that there are a lot of personal attacks from the lefties here, they aren't directed at a mom who lost her son in Iraq...my sympathy goes to her first. And yes, there IS more to the discussion than personal attacks, but that discussion seems lost here...and everywhere else.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

And just for the record, what side of the Swifty boat were you on? Were you defending them or criticizing them?

I remained neutral on the subject.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

Again, get a clue. You can't tell what her motives are. You are only trying to kill the messenger because you don't like the news.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

ANd the swifites were lying out there ass. Now prove Cindy is. Links please.

The links have already been provided on her discrepancies in statements. Where the hell have you been during that time?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

Again, get a clue. You can't tell what her motives are. You are only trying to kill the messenger because you don't like the news.

How do you know what my motivations are? You some kind of mind reader or something?

:laugh:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm basing my assessment on what she says, how she says it, her mannerisms (including body posture, facial expressions, how her eyes move), what she's said in the past, who she keeps around her, as well as some of the other issues surrounding her.

Hey! You're just like "Doctor" Frist diagnosing Terry Schiavo based on a video and zero in-person experience. Classy! As I've intimated in previous posts, don't try and pass off your opinion as fact.

It would help if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Here's what I said previouly:

"Nope. I also believe she's shamelessly using her dead son as little more than a prop to further her newly radicalized political agenda. This "protest" seems to be more about Cindy than Casey."

So stop trying to pass off my opinions as fact, please, and then jumping on your strawman high-horse. It comes off as pompous and arrogant which, frankly, is my impression of you.

Look I could give two craps about Sheehan personally, and while I sympathize with her cause as she's laid it out, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and defend her ad nauseum.

But what I can tell you is quite interesting is the righties foaming at the mouth trying so desperately to tear her down and dig up dirt on her. The only reason the right is reacting like this is because Sheehan's managed to get a little media attention over her stunt. The only result of all this blathering and screams of "liar" and bad-mouthing of Cindy is that it will perpetuate what would be a short-lived media blip.

Strange. The folks I see "foaming at the mouth" are people like Cindy, the groups supporting her, and many of the rabid Bush bashinistas in here.

The loopers seem so eager to jab Bush in any way they can, they're off and running with this desperately hoping it has legs. Like so many things they've run with since Bush has been in office, they're only ending up falling flat on the faces, once again.

Oh get real. This woman is within her rights to do what she is doing irregardless of what you or anyone else thinks her motives are. Supporting her right to protest has nothing to do with bashing Bush, it has to do with civil liberties. Everybody has them, even Bush haters. Too bad, so sad.

For Christ sake, get a clue.

How about you get a clue?

I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

Here's a brilliant idea, how about arguing her point instead of resorting to personal attacks? You're free to criticize her all you want, but the fact that this is the only argument I ever see from most of you guys about anyting is "telling" as well.

How about you join in the discussion yourself instead of playing self-appointed mod? Then maybe you'll see that the argument has been more than just personal attacks, and many of the personal attacks have come from my opposition, not me.

What telling is how those on the left completely ignore or block out the foibles of their own ideological kind to take a jab at others.

I have joined the discussion, several times in fact. And I'm not trying to play mod, I'm simply suggesting that maybe these relentless personal attacks against Sheehan aren't really necessary. Fine, you disagree with her, I get it. But in light on the fact that her son died in Iraq, doesn't it seem reasonable that we can discuss this without the excessive bashing going on in this thread? I'm not pointing the finger at you in particular, but let's remember we're posting in a thread suggesting she should be sent to jail for what she's doing.

And while I'll admit that there are a lot of personal attacks from the lefties here, they aren't directed at a mom who lost her son in Iraq...my sympathy goes to her first. And yes, there IS more to the discussion than personal attacks, but that discussion seems lost here...and everywhere else.

She's a public figure, she's open to attack or praise. I see no reason to praise her. Nor do I see that having her son die in Iraq gives her a get-out-of-criticism-free card when she decides to sieze the spotlight in the manner in which she's done. In fact, usin her son as a prop for her political views is precisely WHY I'm criticizing her in the first place. imo, it shows a decided lack of respect for her own son and what he did.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

Again, get a clue. You can't tell what her motives are. You are only trying to kill the messenger because you don't like the news.

How do you know what my motivations are? You some kind of mind reader or something?

:laugh:

Actions speak louder than words. Your actions consistently paint the same picture.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

Again, get a clue. You can't tell what her motives are. You are only trying to kill the messenger because you don't like the news.

How do you know what my motivations are? You some kind of mind reader or something?

:laugh:

Actions speak louder than words. Your actions consistently paint the same picture.

Considering you're constantly focusing on me instead of the topic, so do yours, Finger.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

ANd the swifites were lying out there ass. Now prove Cindy is. Links please.

The links have already been provided on her discrepancies in statements. Where the hell have you been during that time?

Where? I can't find them and I looked. Did you post any?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DonVito
On the other hand, an angry grieving mother who has managed to effectively corner and embarrass the most powerful man in the free world is an interesting story. Moreover, the story is partially a by-product of the President taking such a lengthy vacation (thus giving her the opportunity to camp out in front of the "Western White House" for an interminable period). You have to figure the reporters who are stuck in Crawford, Texas for weeks on end in the middle of August aren't entirely happy about it, and I have to think this story is one way of allowing them to legitimize and vent their frustration about it.

imo, she's embarrassing the left more than Bush.

Sure she is. That must be why the Right is pulling out all stops to try and shut her up.

Exactly. She's hurting them and they know it. As has generally been the case, when somone gets noticed criticizing BushCo, Bush dispatches his drones to assassinate his or her character. It is a shameful display of partisan thuggery.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

ANd the swifites were lying out there ass. Now prove Cindy is. Links please.

The links have already been provided on her discrepancies in statements. Where the hell have you been during that time?

Where? I can't find them and I looked. Did you post any?

Stop wasting my time. If you don't already know what's going on with the whole Sheehan discussion, do some research come back when you do.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've had 46 years to grasp what's going on in people's heads based on their words and actions and in that time I've become pretty proficient at doing that. Many people are proficient doing that and are not therapists. In fact, if you have not garnered that particular capability yourself, I'd think you'd have a rather difficult time at your profession.

Well I've had even longer than you, and we're either watching different footage or your Bush colored glasses are filtering your perceptions. Every time I've seen her, even in the most recent footage, she is obviously someone in great anguish.

You claim to have a son in Iraq. Try imagining yourself in her shoes before attacking her.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Actions speak louder than words. Your actions consistently paint the same picture.

Considering you're constantly focusing on me instead of the topic, so do yours, Finger.

Yawn, another evasion. Go figure.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm basing my assessment on what she says, how she says it, her mannerisms (including body posture, facial expressions, how her eyes move), what she's said in the past, who she keeps around her, as well as some of the other issues surrounding her.

Hey! You're just like "Doctor" Frist diagnosing Terry Schiavo based on a video and zero in-person experience. Classy! As I've intimated in previous posts, don't try and pass off your opinion as fact.

It would help if you actually read what I wrote instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion.

Here's what I said previouly:

"Nope. I also believe she's shamelessly using her dead son as little more than a prop to further her newly radicalized political agenda. This "protest" seems to be more about Cindy than Casey."

So stop trying to pass off my opinions as fact, please, and then jumping on your strawman high-horse. It comes off as pompous and arrogant which, frankly, is my impression of you.

Look I could give two craps about Sheehan personally, and while I sympathize with her cause as she's laid it out, that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and defend her ad nauseum.

But what I can tell you is quite interesting is the righties foaming at the mouth trying so desperately to tear her down and dig up dirt on her. The only reason the right is reacting like this is because Sheehan's managed to get a little media attention over her stunt. The only result of all this blathering and screams of "liar" and bad-mouthing of Cindy is that it will perpetuate what would be a short-lived media blip.

Strange. The folks I see "foaming at the mouth" are people like Cindy, the groups supporting her, and many of the rabid Bush bashinistas in here.

The loopers seem so eager to jab Bush in any way they can, they're off and running with this desperately hoping it has legs. Like so many things they've run with since Bush has been in office, they're only ending up falling flat on the faces, once again.

Oh get real. This woman is within her rights to do what she is doing irregardless of what you or anyone else thinks her motives are. Supporting her right to protest has nothing to do with bashing Bush, it has to do with civil liberties. Everybody has them, even Bush haters. Too bad, so sad.

For Christ sake, get a clue.

How about you get a clue?

I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

Here's a brilliant idea, how about arguing her point instead of resorting to personal attacks? You're free to criticize her all you want, but the fact that this is the only argument I ever see from most of you guys about anyting is "telling" as well.

How about you join in the discussion yourself instead of playing self-appointed mod? Then maybe you'll see that the argument has been more than just personal attacks, and many of the personal attacks have come from my opposition, not me.

What telling is how those on the left completely ignore or block out the foibles of their own ideological kind to take a jab at others.

I have joined the discussion, several times in fact. And I'm not trying to play mod, I'm simply suggesting that maybe these relentless personal attacks against Sheehan aren't really necessary. Fine, you disagree with her, I get it. But in light on the fact that her son died in Iraq, doesn't it seem reasonable that we can discuss this without the excessive bashing going on in this thread? I'm not pointing the finger at you in particular, but let's remember we're posting in a thread suggesting she should be sent to jail for what she's doing.

And while I'll admit that there are a lot of personal attacks from the lefties here, they aren't directed at a mom who lost her son in Iraq...my sympathy goes to her first. And yes, there IS more to the discussion than personal attacks, but that discussion seems lost here...and everywhere else.

She's a public figure, she's open to attack or praise. I see no reason to praise her. Nor do I see that having her son die in Iraq gives her a get-out-of-criticism-free card when she decides to sieze the spotlight in the manner in which she's done. In fact, usin her son as a prop for her political views is precisely WHY I'm criticizing her in the first place. imo, it shows a decided lack of respect for her own son and what he did.

You may have a point there, but I don't think she's using her son as a prop any more than anyone else is. She might be using her son as nothing more than a political prop, but how about the people suggesting she's not showing the proper respect for her son by doing so? That sounds just as bad to me, all the more so because he's HER son. Both sides seem convinced they know what her son would have supported and stood for in this case, and it's really nothing more than another case of using dead soldiers as political pawns. But if that is what she's doing, at least she has more claim than most other people. Not that this makes it ok, but I'm not sure anyone can claim to speak for her son.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
So you criitize and deride her motives and justify your conclusions by being a self proclaimed mind reader? You "studied" her, LOL. You must have a real HDTV!! Get a clue, not even an idiot is going to buy into your "Carmac the Magnificent" routine. You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself.

What are you saying? You have no capacity whatsoever to read people and get a reliable impression of them? If so, imo, you are in the minority because most people I know have that capability to a greater or lesser degree.

Again, get a clue. You can't tell what her motives are. You are only trying to kill the messenger because you don't like the news.

How do you know what my motivations are? You some kind of mind reader or something?

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LOL, you think your cute, don't you. I have read everthing you've said in this thread and have argued with you for before on various other subjects, so I do have an idea of where you are coming from. Additionally you posted this earlier:

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

B...b...but, her son died. Somehow that gives Sheehan special permission to jump off the deep end and engage in a political hackery session that ultimately shows zero respect for her son's death.

Is anyone else tired of the left playing the appeal to emotion card yet in order to excuse this woman's behavior?

You on the other hand, have never had any interaction with Cindy Sheehan, yet you claim to know her motivations. All hail Carmac the Magnificent, Need help with that foot?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've had 46 years to grasp what's going on in people's heads based on their words and actions and in that time I've become pretty proficient at doing that. Many people are proficient doing that and are not therapists. In fact, if you have not garnered that particular capability yourself, I'd think you'd have a rather difficult time at your profession.

Well I've had even longer than you, and we're either watching different footage or your Bush colored glasses are filtering your perceptions. Every time I've seen her, even in the most recent footage, she is obviously someone in great anguish.

You claim to have a son in Iraq. Try imagining yourself in her shoes before attacking her.

I do more than "claim" to have a son in Iraq, I do have a son in Iraq. Additionally, I have imagined myself in her shoes (Well, as long as they don't have heels and some frou-frou on the front.) and I would mourn the loss of my son in private and not make it some public affair.

If it were to happen, I suppose I could go camp out in the front of the house of the owner of the NY Times, and make moronic statements about how their constant derision of the war has emboldened the terrorists in Iraq, which abbetted the death of my son, and have all the uber right-wing groups beat drums, chant, and scream slogans about how the Times are murderers. But personally I don't think that would be any way to honor my son's memory.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I'm not preventing this woman from doing whatever stupid thing she feels is necessary. But since she has decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself, she has opened herself up to criticism and, imo, derision as well for her less than palatable antics. If she wants to protest fine, feel free to do so. But give me the same courtesy to criticize her as a public personality, as is also my right to do.

It's funny that I don't see the righties trying to shut down Sheehan's protest, but the left sure feel compelled to shut down any criticism of her. How telling.

If the reason it's ok to criticize this woman is that she 'decided to shine the public spotlight upon herself', then why were the Dems attacked for looking into the motivations and funding behind the Swift Boat Veterans and not just assuming they were upstanding veterans with a righteous cause?

See it works the same both ways. I think this woman has a right to say anything she wants and people have a right to have sympathy for her or not. If they find she has some non-altuistic reason for doing this that someone can prove, they have a right to bring that up, too. The same for the Swiftys. Oh, and noone was calling for throwing the Swiftys in prison for what they did.

Of course it works both ways. Some of the same people eager to attack the Swifty's are now getting bent out of shape by those who criticize Sheehan. Just like many who whined about the attacks on Clinton now eagerly attack Bush.

It's politics. Hypocrisy abounds.

ANd the swifites were lying out there ass. Now prove Cindy is. Links please.

The links have already been provided on her discrepancies in statements. Where the hell have you been during that time?

Where? I can't find them and I looked. Did you post any?

Stop wasting my time. If you don't already know what's going on with the whole Sheehan discussion, do some research come back when you do.

Oh blow it out your but. I've read everything I've seen and don't know what discrepancies your refereing to. Do you actually have something to input besides your amazing mind reading abilities?
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