when are these people going to go to jail? sea sheapeard at it again.

waggy

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Footage shows protester's ship ramming tuna cage

Libyan assistance to fishermen prompted by diplomatic request

New footage taken by fishermen shows the flagship of the Sea Shepherd tuna conservation campaign, the Steve Irwin, deliberately ramming a tuna cage even though there were men on the gangway of the cage.

The footage appears to belie claims by the Sea Shepherd that its ship was pu More..shed onto the cage when it was hit by the fishermen' vessel.

Meanwhile, it had also emerged that Libya's assistance to fishermen towing tuna toMalta last weekend was prompted by a diplomatic request sent to the Libyan European Affairs Directorate.

The directorate was contacted soon after the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's ship Steve Irwin was seen approaching a pen being towed by the Cesare Rustico last Saturday morning, sources said.

Meanwhile, the Libyan Search and Rescue Centre, which was responsible for the waters where the ships were located, was informed of their coordinates by the Armed Forces of Malta and Malta's Embassy in Tripoli.

This prompted the Libyan Navy to sail out to assist the fishermen, warding the activists off when they spotted the patrol boats on their radars and realised their helicopter was being tracked.

This was in stark contrast to what happened the previous Thursday, when assistance was not forthcoming despite military and diplomatic warnings of a possible clash before it even began.

Described as an act of piracy by the fishermen, the activists rammed a pen to free the tuna it believed had been caught illegally.



really these guys need to be in jail and when are people going to start shooting them and killing them. They are no more then terrorist and need to be killed.
 

rudder

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Jail? I am wondering when some other country will put a hole in the ship and let it sink to the bottom of the ocean. I mean they are pissing off people in remote locations.
 

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I support what they do for the whales. I don't know anything about their Tuna operations but I do know fresh tuna is yummy.
 

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The main thing about the sea shepherd is that when I caught an episode of whale wars, they just seem like the biggest amateurs ever. They really are going to get someone kileld.

It's cool that they do it, but do it professionally, or atleast well. They waste there efforts on annoying the Japanese whaling fleet, but overall they have like no effect.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Eventually they are going to piss off the wrong nation.Then that nation will send their naval ships to react in a most hostile manner.
 
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waggy

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The main thing about the sea shepherd is that when I caught an episode of whale wars, they just seem like the biggest amateurs ever. They really are going to get someone kileld.

It's cool that they do it, but do it professionally, or atleast well. They waste there efforts on annoying the Japanese whaling fleet, but overall they have like no effect.

i agree eventually they are going to get someone killed. so far all they have done is ruin there boat and sink a expensive one.

it amazes me how at times they have no clue on sailing. now i know i don't but shouldn't you really check the campass to check heading at times? one show they got into a small boat to intercept a ship. they went the wrong way,....
 

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i agree eventually they are going to get someone killed. so far all they have done is ruin there boat and sink a expensive one.

it amazes me how at times they have no clue on sailing. now i know i don't but shouldn't you really check the campass to check heading at times? one show they got into a small boat to intercept a ship. they went the wrong way,....

Lol tell me there's a YouTube for that.
 

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I think they're very entertaining. Still, no video is the same with them unless it has hoses and those horns the japanese blow on their boats. I also do wonder when, and am surprised it's not been already, one of them or many of them die. I think one day one of those little boats they send with the complete fvcking moron amateurs will just get lost one day and that will be that. They are complete newbs at the sea except for the captain and a few others.
they just seem like the biggest amateurs ever.
They are neophytes in the extreme and have no tactical sense whatsoever. When the bombs drop and you're looking to make a team you don't want these guys on it.
 

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I don't agree with the way they do anything. They are going to get themselves killed one day. Eventually someone will start taking shots at them. I'm honestly suprised the japanese haven't yet, even more so since they already faked the japanese shooting the captain of the sea sheperd last year.
 

waggy

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I don't agree with the way they do anything. They are going to get themselves killed one day. Eventually someone will start taking shots at them. I'm honestly suprised the japanese haven't yet, even more so since they already faked the japanese shooting the captain of the sea sheperd last year.

i remember reading about that. sometime someone is going to do something. they are putting peoples lives in danger. not to mention the fact they are ramming ships and equipment.

I wouldn't blame anyone for shooting when they come near.

I am anti-whaling but i find myself rooting for the whalers during the show heh
 

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Feel free to cite evidence to the contrary, but don't we have a serious fish stock problem on the horizon? It'd be better if they dealt with this legally but this doesn't piss me off like it probably pisses out the climate-change deniers out there.
 

Craig234

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Anyone who calls for the killing of people who are not threatening the lives of others like this is a moral scumbag and equivalent of a murderer.

Hey, let's condone poachers killing rangers who protect the animals, too. Do-gooders getting in the way of people making a living.

Sure, the law might be different - even if both protect business, one fishing and the other tourism - but it's not too different on the issue.

Or maybe there should be some political movement to have laws protecting animals appropriately that counter the business interests and pressure nations to pass them.

I'm that familiar with the question of whether these activists are more right or wrong, and there is a reason to jail lawbreakers.

But there is also a place for people to act outside the law when the law fails morality, and they are often heroes to do so. Remember sit-ins at white-only restaurants?
 

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Craig - the civil rights movement was non-violent. What is going on here is quite the opposite. Which is what makes your suggestion of the "sit-in" even more hilarious.
 

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I've sent SS money in the past but tuna? Common. We caught with Rod and reel 18 on our last trip to Baja California. They're everywhere.
 

Capt Caveman

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The main thing about the sea shepherd is that when I caught an episode of whale wars, they just seem like the biggest amateurs ever. They really are going to get someone kileld.

It's cool that they do it, but do it professionally, or atleast well. They waste there efforts on annoying the Japanese whaling fleet, but overall they have like no effect.

I believe last year, they were able to harass the Japanese wheeling fleet enough where they only met 75% of their quota of whales.

As already mentioned, I fully support their efforts in stopping whale hunting and don't know enough to place judgement on the tuna incident.
 
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Jiggz

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It's all about power and control. Now the Sea Shepherd wants all fishermen and all those who harvest from the sea to pay their fishing fee to them! The more you pay the more fish you can take home. Kinda like cap and trade.
 

glenn1

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Anyone who calls for the killing of people who are not threatening the lives of others like this is a moral scumbag and equivalent of a murderer.

Hey, let's condone poachers killing rangers who protect the animals, too. Do-gooders getting in the way of people making a living.

Sure, the law might be different - even if both protect business, one fishing and the other tourism - but it's not too different on the issue.

Or maybe there should be some political movement to have laws protecting animals appropriately that counter the business interests and pressure nations to pass them.

I'm that familiar with the question of whether these activists are more right or wrong, and there is a reason to jail lawbreakers.

But there is also a place for people to act outside the law when the law fails morality, and they are often heroes to do so. Remember sit-ins at white-only restaurants?

The people who engaged in the sit-ins were engaged in civil disobedience, not what is arguably piracy. The sit-in protesters were also completely understanding that there would be legal consequences for their acts and willing to go to jail for them, the Sea Shepherd people seem to be in self-denial that they're doing anything wrong (regardless of the moral merit of Japanese whaling).
 

Craig234

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Craig - the civil rights movement was non-violent. What is going on here is quite the opposite. Which is what makes your suggestion of the "sit-in" even more hilarious.

I said, activities that do not threaten the lives of others.

Releasing a cage is far below that, playing word games with 'property violence'.

I understand there can be some activities that move up the spectrum to more danger and risk of personal injury, that make the issue grayer and grayer.

My post was the broader issue, not those gray areas.
 

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I'd support the Sea Shepard folks if they bought a submarine and torpedo'd whaling ships...seems perfectly justifiable to me.

As for the tuna...yes, we're severely over-fishing many of the fish stocks in the ocean, but tuna is big money...and as we all know, money wins over conservation nearly every time.