When are Obama and the media going to stop lying about the "gender wage gap"

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Anarchist420

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Pretty damn good points schneiderguy.:) my take:
women actually earn more than men do now if you take out federal bureaucracy salaries and salaries of public school teachers. 3/5 of medical school students are females so obama needs to cut the bullshit. wherever females make less, it is because they dont demand as much.

and there is no reason for employers to pay women less than men if the women do a better job. but obama wants everyone to think otherwise because he wants to increase the power of the State like a fuckass.

women are smarter than men (women are smarter because they are larger in the front and they actually have less space in places that have nothing to do with intelligence), so there is not reason to think they dont earn more except for public sector jobs. they make less in the public sector because bureaucrats are bossy and women arent usually as bossy.

women are less likely to be unemployed too, so that also means that they make a lot more. and once one includes maternal leave, women make at least 5% more than men do in the private sector for the same job.
 
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"women are smarter than men"

Hah - they are actually quite irrational. No group of voters can swing all over the place the way women can - and they vote Dem much more than men. They think emotionally and are too easily manipulated. They voted for Obama when a rational person could see he would be a disaster and now that he's ruined health-care women will be voting out fear from that when they really really really should have known better. Women also tend to fall for the sketchy male politicians the same way they do in real life.
 
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If women were as good as men at being employees but earned less money, then a "greedy business" would hire a bunch of women (or hire only women), pay it's employees less than it's competitors did while offering products that were just as good (or better), and take over the market.
 
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Veliko

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The_AC said:
If women were as good as men at being employees but earned less money, then a "greedy business" would hire a bunch of women (or hire only women), pay it's employees less than it's competitors did while offering products that were just as good (or better), and take over the market.
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Businesses have been doing precisely this for decades.
 
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The answer to the question is never. Creating division among people based on gender, race, color, etc. is the basis of the Democrat party. If they can't continue to convince people that they are "different" and need special treatment, which only the Democrats can provide, these same people might just start realizing how huge a failure Democrat policies are.

Detroit is a prime example. Fifty+ years of Democrat rule. Each election cycle the people were told that just one more term was all they needed to turn things around and ensure prosperity for all. This while the city slowly screwed itself into the ground. Now, it's buried.

Divide and conquer. A strategy as old as the hills.
 
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"Contradicting yourself in one sentence?"

No - women vote mostly Dem but they flop around more than say black voters who rarely veer from the D vote. After 9-11 women voted for Bush more out of security concerns - but then voted for Obama when it was clear he had flaky ideas security wise. Smart people understand security principles. Emotional people respond to circumstances. Women didn't care about security in 2012 because Dems emotionalized them over birth control and other trifles. Now they have the pills they always had but the worlld and health-care are falling apart. They deserve to suffer actually
 
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Veliko

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finglobes said:
"Contradicting yourself in one sentence?"

No - women vote mostly Dem but they flop around more than say black voters who rarely veer from the D vote. After 9-11 women voted for Bush more out of security concerns - but then voted for Obama when it was clear he had flaky ideas security wise. Smart people understand security principles. Emotional people respond to circumstances. Women didn't care about security in 2012 because Dems emotionalized them over birth control and other trifles. Now they have the pills they always had but the worlld and health-care are falling apart. They deserve to suffer actually
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You're an incredibly confused person.

You know that some women voters are also black voters, yes?
 
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There is a bunch of misogyny in this thread. I'm not surprised.

There isn't really a wage gap in the sense that men make more than women for the same jobs. There isn't a 1 to 1 link there with any reasonable discrepancy. As Bill Clinton pointed out during his terms, the problem is a glass ceiling for women. They don't end up on the higher paying jobs like men do, creating the appearance of a wage gap to the less informed.

There is little hard data on why women have to deal with the glass ceiling for higher positions and the problem is assuredly multifaceted. From personal experience, I would say that the biggest causes are women not going far in hard sciences in school coupled with "good ol boy" clubs that dominate upper management that don't see women as equals. There is a look and attitude common with that group that doesn't look or act like a woman. Many other causes can be sprinkled in there, including pregnancies and child custody biases in courts.

While the laundry list is huge, most of it boils down to decades old, if not centuries old, ideas about a "woman's place". This thread and it's responses are proof.
 
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According to AEI's analysis of salary data from the "2013 Annual Report to Congress on White House Staff," the 229 female employees in the Obama White House are being paid a median annual salary of $65,000, compared with a median annual salary of nearly $74,000 for the 232 male White House staffers
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So....

There's a glass ceiling for female white house staffers in Obama's good ol' boy network?
 
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Zaap said:
So....

There's a glass ceiling for female white house staffers in Obama's good ol' boy network?
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I bet anything if you were to look at the positions and hierarchy there you will find the most senior positions to be male dominated.
 
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LOL @ the idea that the democrats are somehow tricking women into thinking there's a wage gap when their isn't. If we're so much better at tricking women into supporting us, maybe we're smarter than you goofy GOPers? Maybe it's evolution? Or do you guys not believe in that either?




I guess democrat men are just smarter than republican men. Seems like a pretty safe assumption.
 
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TreVader said:
LOL @ the idea that the democrats are somehow tricking women into thinking there's a wage gap when their isn't. If we're so much better at tricking women into supporting us, maybe we're smarter than you goofy GOPers? Maybe it's evolution? Or do you guys not believe in that either?
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That conservative notion that women are as described here in the thread is exactly why that ceiling is in place. It is amazing that they can't see that as it pours out of their heads and into this thread.
 
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Lepton87

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Seems like the US government likes to talk about imaginary gaps. Bomber gap, missile gap and now gender wage gap. They were right, sort of, there was indeed a missile gap but it was the other way around by far.
 
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The issue isn't if there is a gender wage gap. There IS. The issue is why and if that is actually a bad thing. The reasons are largely societal. Some examples are: women are more likely to be primary caregivers, women are less likely to go into fields like CS, women are more likely to be passive in nature.

It's not to say that these societal differences don't swing both ways. Men are expected to pay for a date, pay higher insurance rates, register for SSS, etc. All because of societal expectations.

In general, I don't think there is anything stopping women from making just as much as men. The difference largely rests in choice. Popular culture tends to heavily influence choice; it shouldn't be government's role to attempt and control that.
 
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Harvey

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schneiderguy said:
When are Obama and the media going to stop lying about the "gender wage gap"
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The real question is, when are tea tards going to stop lying about virtually anything and everything President Obama and his adminstration do?

The answer is essentially, whenever the Koch brothers and Faux Noise run out of money or grow tired of spreading so much BS. :rolleyes:
 
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