when are next gen cards coming?

[natty1]

the high end ones?

 

[toyota]

July 4th

 

[Dkcode]

Which are you referring to? ATI or nVidia?

 

[Dribble]

Ati has demo'd a working card apparently. Probably release in the Autumn to coincide with win 7 release, although they are kind of dependent on TMSC sorting out their 40nm manufacturing process.
Nvidia is very quiet - estimates of release vary from this Autumn to the first half of next year. Chances are they will release after ati.

 

[zephyrprime]

What kind of performance can we expect? A big jump or a little one?

 

[Kakkoii]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
What kind of performance can we expect? A big jump or a little one?

A big jump if rumored specs are true. And even more so if Nvidia's turn out true.


I think it's safe to say that both ATI and Nvidia will have their new cards out this year, it would be horrible for Nvidia if they waited until 2010. Both of them will most likely have their cards out around the same time as the release of Windows 7, give or take a month or 2.

 

[natty1]

so October then? is this all the info we have?

 

[IlllI]

between now and 2012

 

[Kakkoii]

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

Yeah, there's no good rumored release dates yet, just rumored specs.

Nvidia:
http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...-revealed---its-a-cgpu

http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...cated-controllers.aspx

http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...on-in-santa-clara.aspx

http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...0-clocks-leak-out.aspx

http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...-targets-225w-tdp.aspx

ATI:
http://brightsideofnews.com/ne...x2-specs-revealed.aspx


But yes, around October should be right. It would be a poor marketting decision to not launch around the same time as Windows 7. Especially with Nvidia showing off DX11 GPGPU technology on Windows 7 at Computex. And then there's all of ATI's claims and hype for their DX11 cards.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

All depends on TSMC, UMC, Global Foundries. Basically, TSMC is having 40nm issues and Nvidia uses them for 90% of their product supply. UMC gets 10% AFAIK.

ATI may have to resort to using GF is TSMC cannot get a move on. Who knows at this point.

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

All depends on TSMC, UMC, Global Foundries. Basically, TSMC is having 40nm issues and Nvidia uses them for 90% of their product supply. UMC gets 10% AFAIK.

ATI may have to resort to using GF is TSMC cannot get a move on. Who knows at this point.

One would think with ATI's ties with AMD came with the added benefit of having access to AMD's foundries . But from what I understand ATI never stopped using TSMC. I never understood that.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

All depends on TSMC, UMC, Global Foundries. Basically, TSMC is having 40nm issues and Nvidia uses them for 90% of their product supply. UMC gets 10% AFAIK.

ATI may have to resort to using GF is TSMC cannot get a move on. Who knows at this point.

One would think with ATI's ties with AMD came with the added benefit of having access to AMD's foundries . But from what I understand ATI never stopped using TSMC. I never understood that.

I'm pretty sure AMD stopped manufacturing their own chips..

 

[wlee15]

AMD spun off it's foundries to Globalfoundries and subsubsidary jointly control by AMD and an Abu Dhabi investment company. Packaging and testing facilities are still owned by AMD though.

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

All depends on TSMC, UMC, Global Foundries. Basically, TSMC is having 40nm issues and Nvidia uses them for 90% of their product supply. UMC gets 10% AFAIK.

ATI may have to resort to using GF is TSMC cannot get a move on. Who knows at this point.

One would think with ATI's ties with AMD came with the added benefit of having access to AMD's foundries . But from what I understand ATI never stopped using TSMC. I never understood that.

I'm pretty sure AMD stopped manufacturing their own chips..

Yeah but thats a recent development. After the merger with ATI there was a 2+ year period before AMD spun off their foundries and ATI was in house. It doesnt seem like ATI utilized AMD's fabs at all in that period, which is puzzling.

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: Scholzpdx

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: Keysplayr

Originally posted by: natty1
so October then? is this all the info we have?

All depends on TSMC, UMC, Global Foundries. Basically, TSMC is having 40nm issues and Nvidia uses them for 90% of their product supply. UMC gets 10% AFAIK.

ATI may have to resort to using GF is TSMC cannot get a move on. Who knows at this point.

One would think with ATI's ties with AMD came with the added benefit of having access to AMD's foundries . But from what I understand ATI never stopped using TSMC. I never understood that.

I'm pretty sure AMD stopped manufacturing their own chips..

Yeah but thats a recent development. After the merger with ATI there was a 2+ year period before AMD spun off their foundries and ATI was in house. It doesnt seem like ATI utilized AMD's fabs at all in that period, which is puzzling.

TSMC was going fine for ATI, remember they were first to 55nm because of this.

 

[FalseChristian]

As they go to smaller and smaller processes they are going to have more and more problems. Carbon (Graphene) chips are the answer. Silicon will be gone soon.

 

[EnzoLT]

Originally posted by: FalseChristian
As they go to smaller and smaller processes they are going to have more and more problems. Carbon (Graphene) chips are the answer. Silicon will be gone soon.

thats so true. its funny though how colleges (well mine at least) wont get into the more advanced materials like graphene. still teaching the old 130nm silicon, lol

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: EnzoLT

Originally posted by: FalseChristian
As they go to smaller and smaller processes they are going to have more and more problems. Carbon (Graphene) chips are the answer. Silicon will be gone soon.

thats so true. its funny though how colleges (well mine at least) wont get into the more advanced materials like graphene. still teaching the old 130nm silicon, lol

Are we talking about undergrad or grad here?