When a bottle of wine cost $3,750 and not $37.50 at dinner.

[Blackjack200]

From the article:

"I asked the waitress if she could recommend something decent because I don't have experience with wine," Lentini said. "She pointed to a bottle on the menu. I didn't have my glasses. I asked how much and she said, 'Thirty-seven fifty.'"

Tells me right there the wine ordered was on the menu and I'm going to bet with high confidence the price was right there.

The fact that he asked how much the wine was when the price was right on the menu should have alerted her to the fact that he couldn't read it.

 

[alkemyst]

Bobby gonna flay you with a 4k bottle of wine.



I would have left 40 bucks and called the cops. Told cops this is attempted theft and asked for an investigation and called local TV. Bobby flay would have given them the bottle for free.


DONT TAKE CRAP LIKE THIS.


We dine at fine extablishments all the time and anytime we had ordered someothing expensive the Sommelier NOT a junior fricking server comes over and confirms the selection. Sommelier is responsible for not confirming price.


Saying tree fiddy doenst mean shit.

Umm, bro he admits he looked at the menu but couldn't read it since he didn't put his glasses on.

It's the customer's fault...however; the bottle should be sold at cost as a good faith gesture.

 

[Insomniator]

Not the servers fault you can't read.

Its an expensive restaurant in AC... its probably not THAT crazy to sell a bottle of wine like that to some drunk high rollers. That doesn't mean 'thirty seven fifty' automatically means 4 grand, but there is ignorance/negligence on both parties here. The table couldn't believe the wine would cost that much and thus didn't pay attention/assumed it was 37.50, and the restaurant may have just assumed they knew what they were ordering-- because most customers can read what they are ordering.

Server/restaurant should have been more clear about the cost of the wine, and the entire TABLE should have been paying more attention.

That said, recommending a 4 thousand dollar bottle of wine is pretty ridiculous. Bad job by the server, and a bad situation for both parties.

 

[alkemyst]

On the flip side recommend a $40 bottle of wine to a very wealthy customer as a suggestion would also be a problem.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This is far from theft, though it was poor judgment on the part of the wait staff. The customer was shown the wine list, and agreed to the recommendation. I just consider it absurd to recommend a bottle of wine that they may never have sold before, and that is SO expensive. Even your average billionaire hedge fund owner is not typically going to buy a $3,750 bottle of wine, particularly not one of such a recent vintage. (Honestly I had no idea it was possible to pay that much for a 2011 wine, no matter what it is.)

I definitely feel sorry for the customer, but my feeling is he needs to suck it up. The restaurant needs to agree to accept the cost of the wine (which seems to be about $1,500) as payment in full, and the customer needs to pay it.

 

[nageov3t]

I've been to that restaurant a few times... average price of an entree is like $35 -- we're not exactly talking Robuchon-level fine dining here.

seems absurd that the waitress would recommend the second most expensive wine on the menu after the guy admitted he didn't know anything about wine, and especially shady that she listed the price as "thirty seven fifty" instead of "three thousand, seven hundred and fifty."

this definitely isn't the kind of restaurant you go to to order a $3750 bottle of wine (hell, it's not even the best restaurant in that casino)

 

[smackababy]

On the flip side recommend a $40 bottle of wine to a very wealthy customer as a suggestion would also be a problem.

Wat? Why would a wealthy person be looking at the price? And why would they have a problem? I have yet to see anyone say "I don't know anything about this, but how dare you suggest something a poor person would also drink!"

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Indeed, the host, who asked not to be identified, did confirm to Bamboozled that he asked about the price of the bottle before dinner was completed, but he said he did not hear and was not part of the conversation when Lentini ordered the wine. The host said the bottle was already opened and possibly empty when he learned the price, so he didn't see a reason to say anything.

LoL.

Couple of things. I would have paid with my Amex and disputed that shit right away.

Second. Last time I went to Mastro's, before I knew a damn thing about wine, I asked the waiter for a recommendation. He immediately went for the $500 bottle. I was like nopeeee and went for the $15 glass instead. They are always gonna try to get you to order the more expensive one. Especially in a group or a date.

 

[alzan]

Takeaway lesson: Always verify stated cost of item with waiter/waitress, be it an entree special or a bottle of wine.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It's the customer's fault...however; the bottle should be sold at cost as a good faith gesture.

I am familiar with that wine -- it was at cost!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

This is far from theft, though it was poor judgment on the part of the wait staff. The customer was shown the wine list, and agreed to the recommendation. I just consider it absurd to recommend a bottle of wine that they may never have sold before, and that is SO expensive. Even your average billionaire hedge fund owner is not typically going to buy a $3,750 bottle of wine, particularly not one of such a recent vintage. (Honestly I had no idea it was possible to pay that much for a 2011 wine, no matter what it is.)

I definitely feel sorry for the customer, but my feeling is he needs to suck it up. The restaurant needs to agree to accept the cost of the wine (which seems to be about $1,500) as payment in full, and the customer needs to pay it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!!

 

[alkemyst]

Wat? Why would a wealthy person be looking at the price? And why would they have a problem? I have yet to see anyone say "I don't know anything about this, but how dare you suggest something a poor person would also drink!"

They wouldn't....chances are when they got the bill, they'd ponder it.

If you lived a real life as much as you play one on the forums, your g/f wouldn't have your balls in her purse.

Also it's in the server's best interest to maximize the profits of a restaurant.

Asking your server to recommend anything is a bad idea. Ever worse the tables that keep them captive for 10 minutes asking what's bad on the menu...a server would just be risking their job to comment.

 

[soulcougher73]

Id smash the empty bottle over wait staff head and leave without paying at all.

<--internet badass

 

[master_shake_]

i would have keeled over and died.

thirty seven fifty means a lot less that three thousand seven hundred and fifty.

why couldn't she say 37 hundred?

 

[smackababy]

They wouldn't....chances are when they got the bill, they'd ponder it.

If you lived a real life as much as you play one on the forums, your g/f wouldn't have your balls in her purse.

Also it's in the server's best interest to maximize the profits of a restaurant.

Asking your server to recommend anything is a bad idea. Ever worse the tables that keep them captive for 10 minutes asking what's bad on the menu...a server would just be risking their job to comment.

Lol, I make one joke about my GF abruptly changing plans we had made and now my balls are in her purse? AND, do you really want to bring in personal attacks, bro? The guy who can't even pay his house, raising someone else's kids wants to have a personal attack-off? I will destroy you, don't even start it.


And, asking the server should have prompted them to get the sommelier over to discuss what would be the best wine to get with the meals.

 

[alkemyst]

You guys seem to be quoting the starting auction prices and not the average final prices for this wine. Also most are not the Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, but Napa Valley.

 

[alkemyst]

Lol, I make one joke about my GF abruptly changing plans we had made and now my balls are in her purse? AND, do you really want to bring in personal attacks, bro? The guy who can't even pay his house, raising someone else's kids wants to have a personal attack-off? I will destroy you, don't even start it.


And, asking the server should have prompted them to get the sommelier over to discuss what would be the best wine to get with the meals.

Ahh, but I can pay my house. The thing was the mortgage company was not applying those payments.

Sorry you are so mad though and your woman dictates what you can and cannot do.

They have finally folded and are admitting they screwed up. I am meeting with my attorney tomorrow at 3pm to review the documents.

They are forgiving the last 4 years of payments, all past due fees, lowering my rate to 4.375 (from 6.875 when I signed) and rolling in the last 4 years of taxes and insurance they have covered.

My payment drops $800 per month and if I agree to a 30% forbearance at 0% interest the loan is $1200 a month lower than I started.

With the tax write off, that is cheaper than rent. Plus I have lived payment free for four years.

Hope you get your balls back one day.

 

[jlee]

Ahh, but I can pay my house. The thing was the mortgage company was not applying those payments.

Sorry you are so mad though and your woman dictates what you can and cannot do.

They have finally folded and are admitting they screwed up. I am meeting with my attorney tomorrow at 3pm to review the documents.

They are forgiving the last 4 years of payments, all past due fees, lowering my rate to 4.375 (from 6.875 when I signed) and rolling in the last 4 years of taxes and insurance they have covered.

My payment drops $800 per month and if I agree to a 30% forbearance at 0% interest the loan is $1200 a month lower than I started.

With the tax write off, that is cheaper than rent. Plus I have lived payment free for four years.

Hope you get your balls back one day.

6.875%, damn

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

You guys seem to be quoting the starting auction prices and not the average final prices for this wine. Also most are not the Screaming Eagle, Oakville 2011, but Napa Valley.

Here it is for $1,498, out the door - http://www.stationplazawine.com/items/detail?itemid=516794 Oakville is in Napa Valley, and I don't believe there are multiple varieties of SE - just one.

 

[NetWareHead]

Ahh, but I can pay my house. The thing was the mortgage company was not applying those payments.

Sorry you are so mad though and your woman dictates what you can and cannot do.

They have finally folded and are admitting they screwed up. I am meeting with my attorney tomorrow at 3pm to review the documents.

They are forgiving the last 4 years of payments, all past due fees, lowering my rate to 4.375 (from 6.875 when I signed) and rolling in the last 4 years of taxes and insurance they have covered.

My payment drops $800 per month and if I agree to a 30% forbearance at 0% interest the loan is $1200 a month lower than I started.

With the tax write off, that is cheaper than rent. Plus I have lived payment free for four years.

Hope you get your balls back one day.

Nobody gives a fuck. Both of you take it to your own thread and not derail this one

 

[GagHalfrunt]

If I ask you to recommend a wine, obviously I have no idea what I'm doing. And the waitress recommends a $3750 bottle of wine? Are you fucking kidding me? That right here is a problem. The waitress was deliberately trying to take advantage of him. She probably saw the chance to make a big tip.

I'd take that shit to court.

x10

Restaurant is wrong and needs to step up and eat the cost of the bottle. That being said, the guys are idiots if they think any bottle of wine at a restaurant that pretentious would cost $37.50. Place probably charges $37.50 for a glass of 7-up.

I'm betting this gets settled with the restaurant offering to comp the whole meal. Taking a story to the press is better than taking it to court. The bad publicity is costing the restaurant a hell of a lot more than $3,750. That bottle probably cost them $300-$500 max, so write that off and accept the goodwill that comes with it.

 

[nageov3t]

x10

Restaurant is wrong and needs to step up and eat the cost of the bottle. That being said, the guys are idiots if they think any bottle of wine at a restaurant that pretentious would cost $37.50. Place probably charges $37.50 for a glass of 7-up.

they've got lots of wines in the $40-60 price point, including one priced at $36 (http://www.bobbyflaysteak.com/file/2207/BFS_Wine (6).pdf) so assuming $37.50 isn't too unreasonable.

this place is upscale, but it's not exactly the pinnacle of fine dining. I wouldn't feel out of place showing up there in jeans.

 

[alkemyst]

6.875%, damn

That was a typical rate at the time.

Don't ever look up rates from the 80's

 

[alkemyst]

Here it is for $1,498, out the door - http://www.stationplazawine.com/items/detail?itemid=516794 Oakville is in Napa Valley, and I don't believe there are multiple varieties of SE - just one.

That is a 30% discount off list.

A restaurant was being fair at charging only retail.

They had to store it and risk it being damaged.

I can find new Robert Graham shirts at 50% off too, but Saks is not going to agree to that price.

 

[alkemyst]

they've got lots of wines in the $40-60 price point, including one priced at $36 (http://www.bobbyflaysteak.com/file/2207/BFS_Wine (6).pdf) so assuming $37.50 isn't too unreasonable.

this place is upscale, but it's not exactly the pinnacle of fine dining. I wouldn't feel out of place showing up there in jeans.

Flays, Pucks, et al are touristy places. They wouldn't care if you showed up in shorts as long as you pay your bill.

They get everything from the scourge of the earth to .01%ers.