whats wrong with these pictures?

Kaspian

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Were both cameras stored in the same place? Dirty lenses/sensor? Water spots on the lenses?.................?
 

Kaspian

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Were you guys camping close to an old cementary? Those could be ghosts............lol
 

MrFire8808

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It was very dry, I doubt it could have been water spots.... dirty lens is a possibility..

I don't know if you're being serious about that ghost bit, but I don't think there is a cemetery near by. Ill have to look into the area a bit more

there are alot more pictures if anyone is interested.. they all pretty much look the same though.. some of them have less of these spots, some have more. some have square some have round, ect :p
 

fuzzybabybunny

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What camera did you take these with?

If you used flash, it could be something called backscatter from particles in the air. This can happen with things like snow, rain, and maybe dust.

If you're using an SLR, check your glass to see if there's a lot of dust on your front element, inner elements, or rear elements. Dust and damages on rear elements show up the easiest, which is why you should be extra careful to keep your rear element in good shape, although the rear element is very easy and cheap to replace compared to something like a front element, which can sustain a nice scratch and still maintain close to 100% optical performance. Rear elements can often be replaced by the end user rather easily. Front elements are considerably harder to impossible because they require proprietary tools to unscrew the front rings that hold the front element in place.
 

AndrewR

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Looks like backscatter from dust in the air (or pollen or something else). The focus is also off, trying to focus on the particles.
 

Kaspian

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Originally posted by: MrFire8808
It was very dry, I doubt it could have been water spots.... dirty lens is a possibility..

I don't know if you're being serious about that ghost bit, but I don't think there is a cemetery near by. Ill have to look into the area a bit more

there are alot more pictures if anyone is interested.. they all pretty much look the same though.. some of them have less of these spots, some have more. some have square some have round, ect :p


I was joking about the ghost thing.:)
 

MrFire8808

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Originally posted by: Kaspian
Originally posted by: MrFire8808
It was very dry, I doubt it could have been water spots.... dirty lens is a possibility..

I don't know if you're being serious about that ghost bit, but I don't think there is a cemetery near by. Ill have to look into the area a bit more

there are alot more pictures if anyone is interested.. they all pretty much look the same though.. some of them have less of these spots, some have more. some have square some have round, ect :p


I was joking about the ghost thing.:)

Darn :(
 

TheChort

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I've seen that happen pretty often with dust in the air reflecting the flash.
Did you have a fire going? That could easily have produced enough smoke to cause that to happen as well.
 

Steve X

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Looks like backscatter as already mentioned, but from something like rain or snow.
If you look at the 2nd snap , 2nd guy from right has his hands out and is looking up in a very familiar pose.

Anyway that would explain why everyone got similar results. It would be hard to believe that everyone had extremely dirty lenses. Plus dirt on the lens would not reflect the flash back into the camera.

Also note that people seem to be bundled in blankets indicating that it is a little chilly.

Where were the pics taken, roughly and what was the weather like?
 

Deadtrees

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Scratches on lens does NOT create those. In fact, one would have to know a lot about lenses in order to manually create those.

My guess is that:
1. Those shots were was taken at a beach
2. Dusty blanket,
3. Light hail,
3. It was raining lightly,
4. It was snowing a bit
5. or the area was just dusty with some particles in the air.

Just try throwing pillow/blacket or whatever would generate dust in the air, then take a picture using flash light. You'd get pretty much the same results.
 

Steve X

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Snow in August is not likely in the northern hemisphere, but perhaps at high altitude on a chilly night. I saw hail, at 5PM on Aug 13. What is more surprising to me is that the OP was not aware of what certainly looks like some kind of particles in the air between the camera and the subjects. Dust, sand ash, rain, hail, snow, flock of pigeons, whatever. Particularly when he has captured at least one person doing the classic, "feels like it is raining" pose in pic 2.

I think we should wait for MrFire8808 to tell us what it is?
 

corkyg

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Looks like backscatter from the flash, and it could be due to dust, or smoke particles in the air if there was a campfire nearby. With no rain or atmospheric precip - it is too defined to be condensation.
 

MrFire8808

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the elevation was about 1850 ft. it was not raining that night, it did get very cold though.

I too thought that it was dust, so to test it I threw some dust in the direction of the camera while my friend took a picture and they didn't look any different. in fact some of them may have had less.. but I was kind of far away, didn't want to get the lens dirty.. but I think dust is the best explanation, the area is very dusty.. would the dust backscatter show up during the day time?

I just wish I knew how to get rid of it.. rooned mah piccurs :(