Whats with the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition?!? why is it priced so high?

[Battousai001]

Its been a while since I last checked the pricelist of the computer stores here in our place.. what caught my attention was the price of Pentium 4 Extreme Edition!

Whats with the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition anyway?!?

Here's the price difference of the two P4:

Pentium 4 3.2E Box 1MB 800Mhz HT - Price: P13,050 or $241 if converted from our currency to the US dollar

while

Pentium 4 3.2E Box 1MB 800Mhz HT EXTREME EDITION - Price: P49,950 or $925!!!!!

The price difference is almost $684!!!!!! almost 4 times the price of the P4 3.2E!!! so whats with the P4 EXTREME EDITION? and whats the comparison of it from the Athlon 64's and the FX's?

Im planning on going to the AMD 64's or FX's for my next upgrade... with a PCI-E.

 

[ecvs85]

The benchmark of this processor scatters everywhere, anand have it too.

 

[ts3433]

As ecvs85 tries to say, benchmarks can be found at many reputable review sites.

The Extreme Edition is based on the Gallatin (?) core and has 2MB of L3 cache in addition to the usual L2 and L1.

 

[Aenslead]

Its Intel's failed attempt to compete with the FX series from AMD and knack some bucks from poor Joe Sixpack.

 

[Battousai001]

Is the P4 Extreme Edition 64bit?

And is the price/performance ratio of the P4 Extreme Edition good enough? is it worth the high price compared to its performance?

so the only thing that skyrocketed its price is the 2MB L3 cache?!?

 

[imported_Kensai]

2MB of L3 cache.

 

[UzairH]

Extreme Edition is called Emergency Edition by most people. The only diff from normal P4 Northwood is that it has 2MB L3 cache on top of the 512Kb L2 cache. For such an expensive processor you get very little to no performance improevements in almost all apps. If you really want to spend megabucks the A64 FX processors and A64 4000+ are much better. It all depends on your apps though. Look at the benchmarks. For gaming, nothing beats the value of A64 3000+ or 3200+. Or A64 4000+ if you want to spend more. Or FX 55 for the ultimate.

 

[Aenslead]

The L3 caché was thanks to the Galatin's core. The new EE uses the Prescott core and has lost its L3 caché. Now, its basicly the same as a 6xx series P4 sauf the 1066Mhz FSB, which does NOTHING performance wise.

NO, its not worth it AT ALL. Its the most ridiculous processor Intel has launched since... well... Pentium Pro.

 

[classy]

Poor yields.

 

[imported_Kensai]

That too. Don't forget Prestonia.
Of course the A64s are better overall than Intel's offerings.

 

[carlosd]

Emergency edition or Extremely Expensive is a very bad investment considering its poor price/performance, even an A64 3400+ can catch up with a P43.46EE at one fifth of the EE price.

 

[CheesePoofs]

It has two E's after the Pentium 4. That makes it special.

 

[Fenuxx]

Essentially, the P4EE (Extreme Emergency ) is a Xeon processor. Much like the original A64 FX-51 was basically an Opteron, the P4EE is the same way. Intel has just switched the EE to a 1066MHz bus (with the 925XE chipset), and to the Prescott 2MB core. Its still just too damn expensive, and well, its still a damn Prescott .

 

[omniviper]

Yes thats what everyone says. Emergency edition or extreme emergency or blah blah, you figure it out. I own an ES version of the 3.4 EE. I know i know ill get bit by the amd fanboys here. but thats the reason i stuck woith intel. too many amders here or anywhere for that matter. take the road less travelled. For the socket 478 version, it doesnt use the prescott but uses the gallatin core. All i can say is that im extremely disappointred with the overclcoking potential of my ES. but then again es's are known to overclcok liek dogs

 

[Jeff7181]

Whats with the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition?!? why is it priced so high?

Because of the 3 MB L2 cache the core is very large. A large core means they get less cores per silicon wafer when they make them, but the silicon wafer still costs the same to them. So they have to charge a higher price per unit to make up for the increased cost of manufacturing. There's probably also some of Intel's marketing magic going on.

 

[leedog2007]

Originally posted by: omniviper
Yes thats what everyone says. Emergency edition or extreme emergency or blah blah, you figure it out. I own an ES version of the 3.4 EE. I know i know ill get bit by the amd fanboys here. but thats the reason i stuck woith intel. too many amders here or anywhere for that matter. take the road less travelled. For the socket 478 version, it doesnt use the prescott but uses the gallatin core. All i can say is that im extremely disappointred with the overclcoking potential of my ES. but then again es's are known to overclcok liek dogs

If socket 478 is the road less traveled than why is Intel's marketshare so much larger than AMD's? But I see your point about this forum. It is heavily slanted in AMD's favor; thats why I like it so much.

 

[Aenslead]

Certainly! There are many, many AMDers here because those are smart people who really know how to make a wise purchase and get the very best price/performance ratio.

On the other hand... you have... say... C|Net. Poor fellows, them. You should check out their forums, though; most of them are Intelers...

 

[TStep]

It's the 2nd "E" that worth the extra $700

Seriously, I owned one about 6 months ago. I never fooled with Prescotts so I cannot comment in that respect, but went through alot of Northwoods and XPs over time. Being a cheapa$$ overclocker, I do not think performance wise a P4 3.4EE Gallatin is worth over $225 (just the same as I wouldn't pay over $150 for any A64) considering the performance levels one can achieve with much cheaper cpus. Also it sucks down the juice and mobo temps were hot.

But, I will say it was smooth as silk when coupled with an AI7 and BH5 memory (better than any Northwood or XP setup that I've tried). Clocked in the 3.8-3.9 range, it was a fantastic performer. There is a smoothness that is not reflected in benchmarks, but I sold it because that little bit extra was not worth 3x price. At the time, I did not have an A64 setup to side-by-side compare though:frown:

I was hoping they would plummet in value with the inception of 775, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'd like to grab one and test side-by-side w/ my A64 setup.

 

[AristoV300]

Emergency edition or Extremely Expensive is a very bad investment

 

[Mucker]

I just switched to AMD, it wasn't a very hard decision at all at this point in time. Goodbye P4 2.8c, hello 939 3500+ Winchester (OEM $257 shipped). Intel will probably be back, just like how Nvidia came storming back. Just may take a few years....

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