What's with all these fake SUVs?

Dari

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The MDX? The Murano? Navigator? None of these "SUVs" can go off-road. They are just there to please all the wanna-bes. The current "SUVs" are just for soccer moms and dads that are too embarrassed to drive a minivan. Really, are the only real SUVs today the Hummer and Range Rover?
 

JoPh

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my friends explorer can go off roading, thats only becuase he has spent to much money modding it.

in general suv's are a waste, they have become a womans car. i mostly see them driving it. and the newer ones are just getting to big.

id rather have a sports car over a suv anyday.
 

Crimzon

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Haha. I agree about the soccer mom part. All too often I'll see a lone woman in a suv just change lanes, sorta pushing whoever's there away, either making them speed up, slow down, or alltogether change lanes. Waste of a vehicle. Picking up my little brother from middle school when I first got my licsence that happened all too often, so since then I have a perticular hatred for that combination.
 
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Really, are the only real SUVs today the Hummer and Range Rover?
Right...
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Dari

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Originally posted by: ActPrincess
Really, are the only real SUVs today the Hummer and Range Rover?
Right...
rolleye.gif

I've seen all these so-called SUVs get stuck in shallow mud; stuck in snow; and sliding down hills. They are nothing more than glorified minivans. Aside from the soccer mom part, other people like them because they're menacing and aggressive. As someone stated earlier, that can give you a leverage on the road.
 

DanTMWTMP

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i like the 4runner......i really do....my dad used to have one..he went offroading w/ it when he had the time...it never broke on him...it was awesome........5 yrs he had it.....never broke, never complained...always did what it was asked to do.....i loved that car....my folks took me all over the mountains in nor. cal. and nevada w/ it......
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: ActPrincess
Really, are the only real SUVs today the Hummer and Range Rover?
Right...
rolleye.gif

I've seen all these so-called SUVs get stuck in shallow mud; stuck in snow; and sliding down hills. They are nothing more than glorified minivans. Aside from the soccer mom part, other people like them because they're menacing and aggressive. As someone stated earlier, that can give you a leverage on the road.

It's very funny to me to think that most people think that a hummer is an off road vehicle. A few weeks ago I was at my local off road park and saw a hummer club out on the trails, except, they weren't doing anything cuz they were too wide to go through most parts of the park...plus, they had pruning shears and were trimming bushes and branches..WTF?!?!?! Sorry, i can't respect anyone who drives a Hummer(H2) off roading. But i guess i am partial to Jeeps!;)
 

DivideBYZero

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SUV's promote an automotive Arms race on the road.

While SUV = inProduction do;
'Hey, he's got a bigger SUV than me! I shall buy yet another, BIGGER, SUV to protect my child'

 

MrBond

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"Crossover" is just a hip way of saying "Station wagon with a lift kit".

That's all these new SUVs are.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
SUV's promote an automotive Arms race on the road.

While SUV = inProduction do;
'Hey, he's got a bigger SUV than me! I shall buy yet another, BIGGER, SUV to protect my child'
It is an arm's race. The first time I saw an escalade years ago I figured it was about as good at off roading as a ferrari.

 

Nemesis77

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Shouldn't the title be "What's with all these fake 4x4's?". I mean, SUV's by definiton are meant for people who'se idea of "off-roading" is to drive on gravel-covered yard of their local golf-club. 4x4 are for people who really need off-road capabilities. The cars you listed are not "fake-SUV's", they are genuine SUV's, but they are also fake 4x4's.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
SUV's promote an automotive Arms race on the road.

While SUV = inProduction do;
'Hey, he's got a bigger SUV than me! I shall buy yet another, BIGGER, SUV to protect my child'
It is an arm's race. The first time I saw an escalade years ago I figured it was about as good at off roading as a ferrari.

I have to admit one thing. I can run over curbs and drive in the rain. In the mustang it was damn crapshoot in the rain, and if you ran over a curb it was your ass and about 3k in damage.
 

StageLeft

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I have to admit one thing. I can run over curbs and drive in the rain. In the mustang it was damn crapshoot in the rain, and if you ran over a curb it was your ass and about 3k in damage.
The maxima is good in the rain (although you can't drive fast because the thing just spins forever from all that nissan torque! In regards to driving on curbs: Only in Alabama :Q

 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
They pretend to support terrorism.

:confused: Wha'huh'what? :confused: Anyway:

I own a Trooper; both an SUV and a real 4x4 (low range transfer case, LSD rear diff, etc) and I laugh at all the wanna-be 4x4s out there today. They are glorified minivans, that's all. What is the point of getting an "SUV" if you don't even get a 4WD model? Oh, full-time AWD is not 4WD, people. :p

I take my truck off road; I get it dirty and I get it stuck (you ain't wheelin' if you ain't stuck! :p) I have a blast! I get sneered at by Bubba's in F350s with 24" lifts and 40 tires; however, I can fit places they can't and I have followed them thru places they never thought my truck would be able to deal with. :)

I like my truck a lot. Unfortunately, the aftermarket for Isuzu's in almost non-existent. And with the demise of the Trooper line (2002 was the last year), it's only going to get smaller.

My next vehicle will be a pickup. Most probably an F250 variant of some sort. (Solid front axle makes it a cinch to lift...IFS is a bitch when it comes to lifting!) The aftermarket for 4x4 parts for Amercian vehicles is 1,000,000 times bigger and cheaper than for foreign 4x4s.

The aftermarket has responded well though to the XTerra, I must admit that...but I'm not crazy about the XTerra.

Anyway, that's my two-cents.
 
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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
They pretend to support terrorism.

:confused: Wha'huh'what? :confused: Anyway:

I own a Trooper; both an SUV and a real 4x4 (low range transfer case, LSD rear diff, etc) and I laugh at all the wanna-be 4x4s out there today. They are glorified minivans, that's all. What is the point of getting an "SUV" if you don't even get a 4WD model? Oh, full-time AWD is not 4WD, people. :p

I take my truck off road; I get it dirty and I get it stuck (you ain't wheelin' if you ain't stuck! :p) I have a blast! I get sneered at by Bubba's in F350s with 24" lifts and 40 tires; however, I can fit places they can't and I have followed them thru places they never thought my truck would be able to deal with. :)

I like my truck a lot. Unfortunately, the aftermarket for Isuzu's in almost non-existent. And with the demise of the Trooper line (2002 was the last year), it's only going to get smaller.

My next vehicle will be a pickup. Most probably an F250 variant of some sort. (Solid front axle makes it a cinch to lift...IFS is a bitch when it comes to lifting!) The aftermarket for 4x4 parts for Amercian vehicles is 1,000,000 times bigger and cheaper than for foreign 4x4s.

The aftermarket has responded well though to the XTerra, I must admit that...but I'm not crazy about the XTerra.

Anyway, that's my two-cents.

Dood, but the XTerra has a million uses and counting!
 

isaacmacdonald

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
SUV's promote an automotive Arms race on the road.

While SUV = inProduction do;
'Hey, he's got a bigger SUV than me! I shall buy yet another, BIGGER, SUV to protect my child'
It is an arm's race. The first time I saw an escalade years ago I figured it was about as good at off roading as a ferrari.

HAHA... very well put. It's more and more "power" with less and less application.

 

CraigRT

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I dont mind the MDX actually... it's grown on me.. one of the few SUV's that I like (but would never buy...) :D
 

JOSEPHLB

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all of the SUV's that are coming out on the market today are being developed because of the demand...
you see it in MTV music videos all the time....
It seems to me they are catored toward the "soccer mom" crowd and the "hip hop gansta" .. "bling bling" crowd...
in all reality.. they couldn't pull all 4 wheels through and on some wet asphault


 

Ryan

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I thought the new Hummer had a solid rear axle?!?!?!? Doesn't that almost nullify any ideas of it being the ultimate Off road SUV?