What's up with the Sandy Bridge excitement?

[Zen0]

I know it's faster than X58 and P55 and whatnot (but not hugely faster), but it's a mid-tier platform.

Any reason why people are upgrading, even despite the problems?

I would personally wait to see what Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge bring to performance.

Or will you be upgrading to those as well if you are an SB user?

 

[BoomerD]

The i5-2500K is faster and cheaper than anything in the X58 platform for gaming. Ivy Bridge and Bulldozer are still unknown platforms and no one knows exactly what they'll bring for performance.
Truthfully, I think the whole Sandy Bridge chipset issue is being greatly overblown.
Yes, if you are one of the massive RAID array folks who uses every SATA port on your motherboard, you MIGHT experience some problems IF/when the chipset starts to fail...but for most of us, using the 6Gb ports eliminates the problem completely...and since the board manufacturers are going to RMA any/all for those who ask, it's a minor inconvenience at worst for MOST of us.

 

[Zen0]

The i5-2500K is faster and cheaper than anything in the X58 platform for gaming. Ivy Bridge and Bulldozer are still unknown platforms and no one knows exactly what they'll bring for performance.
Truthfully, I think the whole Sandy Bridge chipset issue is being greatly overblown.
Yes, if you are one of the massive RAID array folks who uses every SATA port on your motherboard, you MIGHT experience some problems IF/when the chipset starts to fail...but for most of us, using the 6Gb ports eliminates the problem completely...and since the board manufacturers are going to RMA any/all for those who ask, it's a minor inconvenience at worst for MOST of us.

Well we know for a fact that Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge will be faster than Sandy Bridge. OK, maybe not Bulldozer, that's up to AMD. But Ivy Bridge is a given.

I just don't know what the big rush is for these processors if you already have say a P55 or X58 system... it seems way too incremental in performance to have to go with a new motherboard as well... especially with Bulldozer just around the corner.

 

[dpodblood]

Well we know for a fact that Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge will be faster than Sandy Bridge. OK, maybe not Bulldozer, that's up to AMD. But Ivy Bridge is a given.

I just don't know what the big rush is for these processors if you already have say a P55 or X58 system... it seems way too incremental in performance to have to go with a new motherboard as well... especially with Bulldozer just around the corner.

Yes I think most will agree with that. But for people still on LGA775 SB is a significant step up.

 

[Anomaly1964]

You can ALWAYS wait, as SOON as you buy something, something FASTER will be announced...

Seems to me that after a lot of reading here, most ALL gaming PCs built here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out handle any software available and it seems the GPU is a bigger factor in gaming graphics than the CPU most of the time...

Again, after you buy Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer, Betty Bridge and Dumptruck will be announced to be faster than their predecessors...

 

[mnewsham]

You can ALWAYS wait, as SOON as you buy something, something FASTER will be announced...

Seems to me that after a lot of reading here, most ALL gaming PCs built here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out handle any software available and it seems the GPU is a bigger factor in gaming graphics than the CPU most of the time...

Again, after you buy Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer, Betty Bridge and Dumptruck will be announced to be faster than their predecessors...

Fyi, no more bridges for intel (for now) next is ivy bridge(22nm), haswell, then rockwell (16nm)

 

[dpodblood]

Again, after you buy Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer, Betty Bridge and Dumptruck will be announced to be faster than their predecessors...

Hahahahaha!

 

[magomago]

Well we know for a fact that Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge will be faster than Sandy Bridge. OK, maybe not Bulldozer, that's up to AMD. But Ivy Bridge is a given.

I just don't know what the big rush is for these processors if you already have say a P55 or X58 system... it seems way too incremental in performance to have to go with a new motherboard as well... especially with Bulldozer just around the corner.

Bulldozer....fact?

Where?

 

[BoomerD]

Yeah, not much is known about Bulldozer except rumors.

I agree that for those with 1155 or 1366 builds jumping to Sandy Bridge might not make good sense...but then again, constantly building on new platforms rarely does...but it's part of the hobby...upgrading to the newest and fastest as it comes out. I'd probably do it if I could afford to...but my budget won't stand it any longer. I went from a socket 478 to 1155 in December 2010. It was a HUGE jump in performance.
If you wait for Ivy Bridge, why not wait for the next release instead? You can play the waiting game forever. By the time a new platform is released with solid, stable boards and drivers, a new platform is already in the wings...

 

[Athadeus]

RMA is rarely a minor inconvenience for home users.

I built a 1366 system really late, but got MC deal, and my favorite game, SC2, performs a bit better on it than 1156. I am fairly happy for now, especially seeing how I do feel like I dodged a bullet on that recall. There is still a lot of speculation on SB-E, but I may not be willing to wait so long to make another system if the right 1155 MB comes out by June (reliable mini-ITX w/ overclocking mmm).

 

[GrumpyMan]

Again, after you buy Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer, Betty Bridge and Dumptruck will be announced to be faster than their predecessors...

I see what you did there.....lol.

 

[jenneth]

I know it's faster than X58 and P55 and whatnot (but not hugely faster), but it's a mid-tier platform.

Any reason why people are upgrading, even despite the problems?

I would personally wait to see what Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge bring to performance.

Or will you be upgrading to those as well if you are an SB user?

That really depends on what you're upgrading from, isn't it? I had an E8500, now I have a 2600K, and it has been great (the chipset problem doesn't really affect me). Before upgrading, I checked out the Intel roadmap, and I'm much more interested in getting a SB now and a Haswell in 2013 than than an IB later this year.

 

[BoomerD]

RMA is rarely a minor inconvenience for home users.

I built a 1366 system really late, but got MC deal, and my favorite game, SC2, performs a bit better on it than 1156. I am fairly happy for now, especially seeing how I do feel like I dodged a bullet on that recall. There is still a lot of speculation on SB-E, but I may not be willing to wait so long to make another system if the right 1155 MB comes out by June (reliable mini-ITX w/ overclocking mmm).

IMO, the average "home user" probably doesn't know what platform Dell used in the first place. If they have problems, they'll just call Dell tech support and get the board replaced by a technician.
The "enthusiast class" of computer owners, like most of us, know...and (again) unless we're building large RAID array boxes, won't be all that inconvenienced...Replacing a motherboard is only a 30 minute job...plus any software that has to be replaced/updated.

 

[XLNC]

I think this thread tells the tale perfectly. 68% of AT posters upgraded from 775. Not surprising, 775/Wolfdale was an excellent time to upgrade just as it is now with SB.

 

[tweakboy]

You can ALWAYS wait, as SOON as you buy something, something FASTER will be announced...

Seems to me that after a lot of reading here, most ALL gaming PCs built here waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out handle any software available and it seems the GPU is a bigger factor in gaming graphics than the CPU most of the time...

Again, after you buy Ivy Bridge or Bulldozer, Betty Bridge and Dumptruck will be announced to be faster than their predecessors...

LMAO thats soo funny. Thing will just go until it reaches 1nm chipset what happens then,, its over ,, no more new tech intel chips... I mean you cant go lower, Lets get the 1nm process in 2014. whos with me homey possibly 2017.. Thanks and of course gg and gb

 

[mfenn]

I know it's faster than X58 and P55 and whatnot (but not hugely faster), but it's a mid-tier platform.

Any reason why people are upgrading, even despite the problems?

I would personally wait to see what Bulldozer and Ivy Bridge bring to performance.

Or will you be upgrading to those as well if you are an SB user?

"Mid-tier" or no, you still get i7 980x performance for i5 760 prices.

 

[mnewsham]

LMAO thats soo funny. Thing will just go until it reaches 1nm chipset what happens then,, its over ,, no more new tech intel chips... I mean you cant go lower, Lets get the 1nm process in 2014. whos with me homey possibly 2017.. Thanks and of course gg and gb

With current technology we cant figure out how to make below i believe 10nm as the transistors stop functioning due to quantum tunneling which leads to interesting electrical phenomena that can interfere with the operations of the silicon.

 

[Athadeus]

IMO, the average "home user" probably doesn't know what platform Dell used in the first place. If they have problems, they'll just call Dell tech support and get the board replaced by a technician.
The "enthusiast class" of computer owners, like most of us, know...and (again) unless we're building large RAID array boxes, won't be all that inconvenienced...Replacing a motherboard is only a 30 minute job...plus any software that has to be replaced/updated.

I only have one desktop and one laptop, both of which I use every day. If I couldn't do an advanced/crosship RMA, I would be extremely disappointed for about 12 days.

 

[BoomerD]

I only have one desktop and one laptop, both of which I use every day. If I couldn't do an advanced/crosship RMA, I would be extremely disappointed for about 12 days.

Fear not. ASUS has already approved advanced RMA for this problem...You'll have three options:

http://service.asus.com/notice/FAQ.aspx

" 1. ASUS will provide a cross-ship option that offers the customer the least amount of system downtime. Upon the receipt of a valid credit card number and approval, a temporary charge hold will be placed against the customer’s credit card for the MSRP value of the replacement product. The replacement product will be shipped to the customer and a prepaid label for return of the existing product will be provided. Upon return of the defective product and verification against the RMA, the temporary charge hold on the customer’s credit card will be lifted.
2. ASUS will provide an advanced tracking option that expedites the delivery of the replacement product compared to our standard return process. A prepaid label for return of the existing product will be provided by ASUS. A valid credit card number is required for this process. Upon notification that the defective product is marked as “In-Transit” at the carrier, ASUS will ship the replacement product to the customer. If the returned product does not match the RMA, a temporary charge hold will be placed against the customer’s credit card for the MSRP value of the product until resolution of the RMA, at which time the hold will be removed or the credit card charged for the MSRP value of the product.
3. ASUS will provide a standard shipping option. A prepaid label for return of the existing product will be provided by ASUS. Upon return of the product to ASUS and after verification of the product against the RMA, a replacement product will be shipped to the customer. "


Will the other board manufacturers do the same? I dunno.

 

[wuliheron]

Most of the people I know upgrading are only doing so because their current systems are socket 775 and getting old. Some could just upgrade their cpu, but Intel hasn't lowered prices enough to make it worthwhile. It's boom or bust time for them and I expect by upgrading to another Intel system they'll find themselves in the same situation again in a couple of years. I'm gonna wait for bulldozer before deciding.