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Whats up with Japan, China, Korea..
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The Green Bean
Diamond Member
🙁 ...The best we have is a 256K connection @ $60 a month 🙁
The Green Bean
Diamond Member
Internet 2 is around the corner which will have speeds greater than those of our hard disks.
FeuerFrei
Diamond Member
I don't think they have better technology, they're just more rapid adopters of current technological developments. Japan at least. They have a national obsession with new tech and companies over there feed it. Here in the U.S. we aren't as obsessed so companies get to string us along with older tech. Why should U.S. companies upgrade their technologies when U.S. citizens are willing to pay top dollar non-cutting edge gadgets/services.
mrSHEiK124
Lifer
The lame thing is, DOCSIS 2.0 allows for up to like 40 Mbps, but of course, here in the US, we have greedy ass cable companies
<-- Is charged fvckin 49.99 a month by Bright House Networks for 6mbps/384kbps Road Runner.
<-- Is charged fvckin 49.99 a month by Bright House Networks for 6mbps/384kbps Road Runner.
Because there's like no funding in sciences and engineering? Plus, poor implementation of what we know? I wouldn't say it's just the U.S., but the world as a whole that's technologically lagging.
http://cohesion.rice.edu/NaturalScience...y/emplibrary/120204%20MRS%20Boston.pdf
http://cohesion.rice.edu/NaturalScience...y/emplibrary/120204%20MRS%20Boston.pdf
blackangst1
Lifer
Well, having travelled extensively in SE asia, I can say we ARE behind. Aside from broadband, their wireless networks are larger, and almost flawless. And devices? It makes our current ones look like cans and string.
Wow you're like some kind of genius. I nominate you for Secretary of State and Defense. :roll:
The reason why those countries (along with most of the civilized world) don't spend much on the military is that they have no need to because the US provides security around the globe.
But to answer the OP directly, it's much harder to deploy technologies that are capital intensive because of the way the US infrastructure is built. Population density is much higher in Japan and SK so it's relatively cheaper to deploy technologies there. Also, it's a matter of choice; Americans like to spend money on Ford F-150s and JP and SK consumers spend it on new cell phones (it helps that they don't have to spend money on a car).
cyclohexane
Platinum Member
maybe it's because they actually educate their young people...
UglyCasanova
Lifer
Japan does seem to adopt more consumer electronics faster than we do (China lol), but as others have said it is a nation with a MUCH smaller landmass so a greater population density so things can be implemented faster/cheaper. And consumer electronics != technology in general. As cool as they are, PS2's are not the same thing as putting a man on the moon.
Yeah you forgot the part about Japan not being allowed to have an army, only a police force not to exceed 100,000. Since we impose this sanction on them, we are responsible for their defense.
OP, Japan and South Korea are big into consumer electronics, Plasma TV's, cell phone technology etc. Additionally, both of those countries are much smaller land-wise than the US, so high speed fiber lines are pretty cheap to deploy (comparatively)
blackangst1
Lifer
Actually that isnt quite correct. Although their land mass is smaller, their population is more dense, and vertical. It costs significant amounts of money to work on the infrastructure there because of this. Imagine deploying fiber in Manhattan. You get the idea.
have you been in a school lately. there was even a recent issue of newsweek focusing on this topic by itself. we have a ton of math/science grads, but a lot of them are foreign nationals. this was ok until many fo them decided it was better to just be trained here and go back home.
american born americans are souring on the idea of majoring in engineering or science. i have a friend who actually works for ucla where according to him the quantity of engineers graduating has shrunk every year since we had enrolled , which was 1999.
it doesnt matter if you have "the most engineers" in the world. it matters that our lead is shrinkging.
and the reason... that korea and japan adopt electronics and generally "luxury goods" (they become non-luxury, when they become cheaper) is that people in korea and j apan have a much higher percentage of their income that they can spend on goods because people there tend to live at home because real estate is expensive.
that is especially true in japan. so people live with their parents, and buy the latest electronics with their income. that and their homes are smaller so they buy smaller things (which are more advanced because of miniaturization).
on the telecommunications side, its mainly because their governments have supported the idea of laying fiber everywhere. even some south american countries lik eperu and argentina are more aggressive rolling out high speed commincations than we are, because they can see it is what is going to matter for their country in the future.
and thank you js80 for the insult. i have no idea who you are, but i'll just assume you are well basically classless. if you cant come up with an argument that makes sense, then dont stoop to pathetic name calling. since if anyone is making ucla look bad it is you bucko.
Sheepathon
Diamond Member
Actually, a lot of students in Korea/Japan/Taiwan who weren't "good" enough to be admitted to Todai/Seoul U/Yonsei go to Stanford/Berk/etc as backups because the competition to get into those schools is so incredibly intense that they actually find it easier to get into the best US schools. A lot of the FOBs studying at our schools aren't here because it was their first choice.
I'm not saying that those schools are actually better than MIT/Caltech/etc because numbers show that the contributions and output of the American top universities are higher than the Asian ones. However, the quality of the applicant pool may very well be superior to the US. Asian students tend to grossly outperform American students up to the college level, where the American universities begin to pull back. This is a cultural thing - in Asia, your diploma from a top university is gold - employers will pick you up even if you have no experience or knowledge of wtf the company is about - the top companies take grads from the top schools and train them. Because of this, students in the top Asian universities often begin to slack - not slack so much that they don't pass classes, but perform at a much more lax level than they have up to that point in their lives. In the US, your degree is worth much less, even if you graduate from a top university. Here your career success has much more to do with your experience, networking, etc. There are plenty of fairly poor Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc grads out there - more than you think because you don't read about them as much. The percentage of people that aren't successful after graduating from a top US university is probably much higher than their Asian counterparts.
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