Whats up with Athlon 64s and FX`s?

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
If I were you I would just upgrade to the A643000+ and save the other $200 for a new mobo if it is that much of a concern(in all honesty, I don't think you can rationally justify the A643200+ given how closely it performs to the 3K but is double the price).

I plan to use the processor as long term as i can. The extra 512kb cache will come in handy in 64bit apps.

Originally posted by: aka1nas
A dual channel Gamers Edition Athlon64 on socket 939 would be the AthlonFX.

I ment to say with 512kb cache. I saw it reported on about a week before the A64s release.

 

[Grimner]

May I suggest the alternate route (since I have no idea how long the 754 is going to be around)?

Get a new Socket A board and a Barton 3200 @ 1833 and otherwise stick to your plans - only saving some money in the process?

I was in your position a month ago. I wanted an Athlon64, but since I had to replace motherboard and memory anyway, I found the preformance of 64 wasn't worth it.
And yes, the 9700 Pro will love any upgrade you do.

 

[BoomAM]

After the upgrade, i dont plan on upgrading the core componets of the system (CPU/Mem/Mobo) for at least a year, and a Barton3200 would not suit my needs as well as a A64 3200 would.
Good suggestion though.

What i`m gonna do though, is wait till my Feb pay check to buy.
Cos by then the 3400s will be out, making the 3200s a little cheaper, and hopefully the prices of the other componets that i buy will be cheaper as well. That reason, and the fact that im going out drinking tonight, and i`d be £30 short of the upgrade anyway!

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
After the upgrade, i dont plan on upgrading the core componets of the system (CPU/Mem/Mobo) for at least a year, and a Barton3200 would not suit my needs as well as a A64 3200 would.
Good suggestion though.

If you aren't going to upgrade the core of the system in at least a year, you will need to buy a newer mobo/cpu/ram almost regardless. SO you may as well get the barton and save a lot of money. In what way would the Barton not suit your needs as well as the A64?

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
If you aren't going to upgrade the core of the system in at least a year, you will need to buy a newer mobo/cpu/ram almost regardless.

I brought my KT7A-RAID in 2001. In 2003 i brought a XP1800. And it worked.

SO you may as well get the barton and save a lot of money. In what way would the Barton not suit your needs as well as the A64?

1) Ive saved up for ages, and i will be getting a A64 3200.
2) The A64 offers 64bit compatibility, is faster for games, is better in all respects. Plus when Win64 gets released, i can use the 64bit capibilites for a few programming projects.

 

[aka1nas]

Downside with the Athlon64s is that the integrated memory controller means that its now the CPU that needs to be upgraded to support new memory standards and speeds, not just the motherboard. Moreover, the future of socket 754 will probably not be as long-lived as socket A was. Other than the programming projects you mentioned, the speed advantage of the faster proc and it's 64bitness isn't that big of a deal when you factor in price. Not saying it's a bad upgrade by any means, but it isn't anymore future proof than a 32-bit athlon system at the moment. By the time applications are optimized for x86-64, your one year no upgrade time will be up and the price of the chips way down. Just my 2 cents.

P.S. If you want to do some 64-bit programming, AMD will send you all the x86-64 programming manuals for free if you fill out a form on their website.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: aka1nas
P.S. If you want to do some 64-bit programming, AMD will send you all the x86-64 programming manuals for free if you fill out a form on their website.

Didnt know that. Thanks.
Another reason, is that its very rare that i buy a top of the range, or near top of the range component. And when i do, its ususally after months of working to afford it. I think of it as a target. For the last 6 months, ive been working my a$$ off to afford a monster upgrade.

 

[Regs]

When the 754 dies, hopefully the FX's will be more affordable with a bigger bang for my buck.