What's today's basic video card that won't embarass itself?

Zenmervolt

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Finally getting around to contemplating a new computer. The main performance-intensive task will be photography, so as long as 3D doesn't embarrass itself to the point that there's lag in the occasional game of Neverwinter Nights or Combat Flight Sim, my main focus is 2D image quality.

Current machine main stats:

Athlon XP 64, 3400+ (Newcastle)
2GB DDR 400
Hitachi 160GB SATA 150 7200 RPM HDD
ATI AIW 9600XT, 128 MB
MSI K8T NEO-FSR mainboard

It wasn't bad when I built it in January of '05, but almost 4 years later it's coming time to upgrade again, especially now that I've gotten into working with RAW files from my camera.

Basic stats for the new computer are tentatively set at:

Intel Q9550 (Yorkfield)
MSI P45-8D mainboard
4GB DDR3 1333
Some form of SATA 300 7200 RPM drive (likely Seagate)
???? Video card

I've historically been biased towards ATI because I used to think that they held a slight edge in 2D quality despite a slight 3D performance gap when compared with nVidia, but I've been out of the market for so long that I know that my impressions 4 years ago just aren't applicable now. I hope to keep whatever I build now for at least another 4 years without updating, so even though I don't run any games more demanding than Morrowind or Neverwinter Nights (I would, however, like to be able to run Neverwinter Nights 2 at non-hobbled settings).

So, for these basic uses, bearing in mind that I plan to keep the system around for several years without upgrading, what do you all recommend as a decent video card choice?

ZV
 

Arkaign

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IQ seems a wash now.

TBH, I'd recommend looking at the 4830 or 9600GSO/9600GT as options. Quieter, cooler, less power, less expensive, still ridiculously fast for almost anything but serious gaming (NWN2 will run like butter).
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
4850/4870

What res are you ganna play at???

I should have thought of that.

Therein lies the issue, of course. With a CRT it was OK to drop down a resolution. With LCDs it can look awful (not "will", mind you, but "can").

If I keep my current monitor, I will be looking at 1280x1024 (the panel's native resolution). If I upgrade my monitor, I'm looking at a 1920x1200 monitor. I do not expect to be able to play games at that resolution, and hopefully the reduced pixel pitch will reduce the issues of down-rezzing on an LCD. If the 4870 will handle 1920x1200, so much the better, but I am really expecting to be forced to limit gaming to 1280x1024 or lower resolution.

ZV
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: zerocool84
4850/4870

What res are you ganna play at???

I should have thought of that.

Therein lies the issue, of course. With a CRT it was OK to drop down a resolution. With LCDs it can look awful (not "will", mind you, but "can").

If I keep my current monitor, I will be looking at 1280x1024 (the panel's native resolution). If I upgrade my monitor, I'm looking at a 1920x1200 monitor. I do not expect to be able to play games at that resolution, and hopefully the reduced pixel pitch will reduce the issues of down-rezzing on an LCD. If the 4870 will handle 1920x1200, so much the better, but I am really expecting to be forced to limit gaming to 1280x1024 or lower resolution.

ZV

Then the 4850/4870 will be too much for you. Are you planning to get any other games in the near future???
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: zerocool84
4850/4870

What res are you ganna play at???

I should have thought of that.

Therein lies the issue, of course. With a CRT it was OK to drop down a resolution. With LCDs it can look awful (not "will", mind you, but "can").

If I keep my current monitor, I will be looking at 1280x1024 (the panel's native resolution). If I upgrade my monitor, I'm looking at a 1920x1200 monitor. I do not expect to be able to play games at that resolution, and hopefully the reduced pixel pitch will reduce the issues of down-rezzing on an LCD. If the 4870 will handle 1920x1200, so much the better, but I am really expecting to be forced to limit gaming to 1280x1024 or lower resolution.

ZV

Then the 4850/4870 will be too much for you. Are you planning to get any other games in the near future???

No, but I wasn't planning on buying Neverwinter Nights either. :p I don't have any specific plans, but I can see myself buying Oblivion in the next year possibly. I'll probably continue my trend of buying games that are older, but not obsolete.

ZV
 

Arkaign

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Oblivion will run like glass on an 8600GT, of which pales in comparison to 4830, 9600GSO, 9600GT. Shoot, you can probably play stuff like Call of Duty 4 (many years newer) with details mostlymaxxed at your native res.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Oblivion will run like glass on an 8600GT, of which pales in comparison to 4830, 9600GSO, 9600GT. Shoot, you can probably play stuff like Call of Duty 4 (many years newer) with details mostlymaxxed at your native res.

Then it sounds like, for my use, the 4850 or 4870 would be "future proof" given my constraints and would not be excessively expensive. In a couple of months when I finally put this together, I think that will be the way to go.

Thanks all!

ZV
 

s44

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In a couple months, you should be looking at lower-power refreshes of the current stuff.

4870/GTX260 draw a lot of power as is.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: s44
In a couple months, you should be looking at lower-power refreshes of the current stuff.

4870/GTX260 draw a lot of power as is.

Yeah, I found that out in the reviews. Still, that's not a huge concern of mine and since I'll be refreshing the case and PSU this time around with a decent CoolerMaster case and 750 watt PSU I should be able to adequately handle either a 4870 or a GTX260 both in terms of power draw and heat dissipation.

ZV
 

themisfit610

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Yeah, don't dismiss an original GTX 260 for $230. That's a badass card that's going for about half its launch price.

-Derek