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Whats this guy talking about, is it true?

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Drayvn

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"The one thing thats really annoying is that all of you say the A64 is better than the Intel blah blah BLAH.

For some reason everyone thinks that the A64 is the only 64bit CPU out there.....

The P4 64Bit Netburst CPU makes the A64 look like a chocolate teapot.

Its been proved that its a faster more robust cpu and the AMD is weak against it. I've used both due to my work, and all I can say is...

P4 64Bit ALL THE WAY!

It runs games and software alot better than the A64...and Multi-tasking...bah A64 cant do it, not like the P4.
I've had to test software, run it, find errors in-game, and while running the game with serious errors, been able to multi around and repair/compile/re-config/redesign graphix/upload/run new software without the P4 even breakin a sweat....tried that on the A64....bad idea, very bad idea."

I thought AMD64 was pretty much even or better with all the Intel CPUs?
 
Originally posted by: Drayvn
"The one thing thats really annoying is that all of you say the A64 is better than the Intel blah blah BLAH.

For some reason everyone thinks that the A64 is the only 64bit CPU out there.....

The P4 64Bit Netburst CPU makes the A64 look like a chocolate teapot.

Its been proved that its a faster more robust cpu and the AMD is weak against it. I've used both due to my work, and all I can say is...

P4 64Bit ALL THE WAY!

It runs games and software alot better than the A64...and Multi-tasking...bah A64 cant do it, not like the P4.
I've had to test software, run it, find errors in-game, and while running the game with serious errors, been able to multi around and repair/compile/re-config/redesign graphix/upload/run new software without the P4 even breakin a sweat....tried that on the A64....bad idea, very bad idea."

I thought AMD64 was pretty much even or better with all the Intel CPUs?
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nice flamebait
 
Originally posted by: Drayvn
"The one thing thats really annoying is that all of you say the A64 is better than the Intel blah blah BLAH.

For some reason everyone thinks that the A64 is the only 64bit CPU out there.....

The P4 64Bit Netburst CPU makes the A64 look like a chocolate teapot.

Its been proved that its a faster more robust cpu and the AMD is weak against it. I've used both due to my work, and all I can say is...

P4 64Bit ALL THE WAY!

It runs games and software alot better than the A64...and Multi-tasking...bah A64 cant do it, not like the P4.
I've had to test software, run it, find errors in-game, and while running the game with serious errors, been able to multi around and repair/compile/re-config/redesign graphix/upload/run new software without the P4 even breakin a sweat....tried that on the A64....bad idea, very bad idea."

I thought AMD64 was pretty much even or better with all the Intel CPUs?
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Hello Felix:thumbsdown:

 
Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
isn't the 64bit Pentium 4x more money?
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Thats IA64 (Itanium,II, and shortly III)- All RISC chips. There are P4's with a copy of AMD64 instruction set called EMT64 which is slower. I forget what name there under.
 
Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
i thought they stuck it on the Xeons and hiked the price by 2 or something over the last generation?
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Yeah EMT64 is now on Xeons and P4's (some)
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Drayvn
"The one thing thats really annoying is that all of you say the A64 is better than the Intel blah blah BLAH.

For some reason everyone thinks that the A64 is the only 64bit CPU out there.....

The P4 64Bit Netburst CPU makes the A64 look like a chocolate teapot.

Its been proved that its a faster more robust cpu and the AMD is weak against it. I've used both due to my work, and all I can say is...

P4 64Bit ALL THE WAY!

It runs games and software alot better than the A64...and Multi-tasking...bah A64 cant do it, not like the P4.
I've had to test software, run it, find errors in-game, and while running the game with serious errors, been able to multi around and repair/compile/re-config/redesign graphix/upload/run new software without the P4 even breakin a sweat....tried that on the A64....bad idea, very bad idea."

I thought AMD64 was pretty much even or better with all the Intel CPUs?
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nice flamebait
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Sorry its just that i thought from all the reviews that the 64bit architecture was first introduced by AMD, mind you it might not be the best, i dont know, i was just wondering if there is any truth in what he said?

 
Originally posted by: Drayvn

Sorry its just that i thought from all the reviews that the 64bit architecture was first introduced by AMD, mind you it might not be the best, i dont know, i was just wondering if there is any truth in what he said?
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The current implementation of X86-64 was invented by AMD. Other 64-bit processors have been made, but none of them have been able to run legacy Windows software.

And Intel is slowly getting into the 64-bit biz now themselves, but I have not heard of any Intel 64-bit processors that are intended for the general public (by which I mean "under $300").

So, if you want 64 bits, AMD is still the only affordable option (for right now).
 
Noconas have been at Newegg for a while now. The 2.8 is $249.00 although it is OOS at the moment. A refurbed one is $214.
 
Why even bother with such a statement anyway? It is obvious that the person hasn't got a clue. It's pure noobie fanboy flame seeking.
 
Is the netburst architecture more for business use, like servers and stuff, as they are so expensive and hot, that its not very useful in home use?
 
Originally posted by: Drayvn
Is the netburst architecture more for business use, like servers and stuff, as they are so expensive and hot, that its not very useful in home use?
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netburst = P4/xeon, and in its current existance doubles as a space heater.
 
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Why even bother with such a statement anyway? It is obvious that the person hasn't got a clue. It's pure noobie fanboy flame seeking.
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Or someone's account got hacked. How could anyone post something so clueless. 😛
 
Didn't AnandTech already test an "EMT64" Xeon and compare to Opteron results in 64-bit? I thought I remember seeing that here and think I remember "EMT64" not helping the Xeon much... maybe it was another site. Either way, if someone can find those benchmarks that'll put any debate about this to rest.
 
Yeah, but I LIKE chocolate teapots!

Don't try to sound all nicey-nicey after that first post either. What you're saying is old news. OK, good. Go buy an Itanium. So what? You can fry an egg on it. Heck, you can boil a whole pot of water on it! 🙂

Give me a break. The P4s are just fine if you can deal with the extra heat. Perfectly good CPUs. AMD 64s have some elegance, which is why I switched. For the price/performance delta it really looks like Intel and AMD are at least neck and neck. Why does it have to be a political issue with the Intel guys all the time? Sheesh. You guys are the Republicans of the computing world.

Next you'll be saying that if you support Bush, you'll buy Intel. Pah-leeeze. Grow up.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Didn't AnandTech already test an "EMT64" Xeon and compare to Opteron results in 64-bit? I thought I remember seeing that here and think I remember "EMT64" not helping the Xeon much... maybe it was another site. Either way, if someone can find those benchmarks that'll put any debate about this to rest.
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IIRC the Xeon 64s did quite well in some areas, but the Opteron still dominated in certain other areas. I believe the 64bit Xeons showed some improvements over their 32bit counterparts.
 
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