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FDF12389

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One of my tenants wants to trade me 8500 in past due rent for a restored 1969 javalin sst.

Worth it or no? This car is a little before my time... As long as the mecanic says its ok is it a good deal? I cant find a definitive answer on google searches.
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

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if you are looking to sell it for the proceeds then probably not. If you like the car and it's worth it to you then go for it, probably your best chance at getting recourse.

I am thinking you stumbled across something like this
We decided first to try and find a 1969 Javelin SST. The reasoning was that they were a fairly low-production model, and at the rates these cars were disappearing, we might not have a chance to find one before long.
A nationwide search commenced, and it soon became obvious that it was going to be a difficult find. My buddy Dan found the first one, on the internet. There was a 1969 Javelin SST in Big Bad Orange, with a 390 and 4-speed for sale in Arkansas for about 8000 bucks, barely restorable
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and decided to make a story though.

You'd just need to find a hemming's or muscle car trader type publication to see values.

That said having a restored mustang, 'restored' to many is a new coat of paint, some valve covers, exhaust tips and 'cool' seat covers. Maybe wheels if you are lucky.
 
Zenmervolt

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What engine? The SST was by FAR the most common model of Javelin, so there's not as much inherent value in the trim level alone. The Javelin was available with an inline six, or one of three V8 engines, a 290, a 343, or a 390. IIRC the 390 only showed up in "AMX"-badged cars, not the SST, making the 343 the hottest engine in the SST for '69. There were two versions of the 290, a 9:1 compression engine with a 2bbl carb and 200 hp (SAE Gross) and a 10:1 engine with a 4bbl carb and 225 hp (SAE Gross). The hotter of the 290 V8 engines was available only with a 4-speed manual using a console mounted shift lever. The badder 290 was supposedly underrated.

If it has the 390, it's rare. Incredibly so. If it's the 343, or even the hotter of 290, and clean, it's worth more than the rent if you don't mind waiting for the time it may take to sell. The lesser 290 will be more common and harder to sell, and it's arguable whether it's worth $8,500; you can probably get a little more for one, but it will take longer. If it's the inline 6, it ain't worth it.

ZV
 
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FDF12389

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
if you are looking to sell it for the proceeds then probably not. If you like the car and it's worth it to you then go for it, probably your best chance at getting recourse.

I am thinking you stumbled across something like this
We decided first to try and find a 1969 Javelin SST. The reasoning was that they were a fairly low-production model, and at the rates these cars were disappearing, we might not have a chance to find one before long.
A nationwide search commenced, and it soon became obvious that it was going to be a difficult find. My buddy Dan found the first one, on the internet. There was a 1969 Javelin SST in Big Bad Orange, with a 390 and 4-speed for sale in Arkansas for about 8000 bucks, barely restorable
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and decided to make a story though.

You'd just need to find a hemming's or muscle car trader type publication to see values.

That said having a restored mustang, 'restored' to many is a new coat of paint, some valve covers, exhaust tips and 'cool' seat covers. Maybe wheels if you are lucky.
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Why would I make this story up?
 
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FDF12389

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
What engine? The SST was by FAR the most common model of Javelin, so there's not as much inherent value in the trim level alone. The Javelin was available with an inline six, or one of three V8 engines, a 290, a 343, or a 390. IIRC the 390 only showed up in "AMX"-badged cars, not the SST, making the 343 the hottest engine in the SST. There were two versions of the 290, a 9:1 compression engine with a 2bbl carb and 200 hp (SAE Gross) and a 10:1 engine with a 4bbl carb and 225 hp (SAE Gross). The hotter of the 290 V8 engines was available only with a 4-speed manual using a console mounted shift lever. The badder 290 was supposedly underrated.

If it has the 390, it's rare. Incredibly so. If it's the 343, or even the hotter of 290, and clean, it's worth more than the rent if you don't mind waiting for the time it may take to sell. The lesser 290 will be more common and harder to sell, and it's arguable whether it's worth $8,500; you can probably get a little more for one, but it will take longer. If it's the inline 6, it ain't worth it.

ZV
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Thanks that helps alot.

Its not AMX badged, its a V8, and its manual. Thats all I know so far, he is supposed to email me exact details and hasn't yet.
 
Raduque

Raduque

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A Javelin.... I used to have a 74. They're nice cars. That 258 inline 6 was an old Jeep motor, and indestructible.

I'd pay 8500 for it, but that's only because I've been jonsin' for a muscle car for the past 6 years (since my dad sold my 68 Cutlass).
 
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FDF12389

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Originally posted by: Raduque
A Javelin.... I used to have a 74. They're nice cars. That 258 inline 6 was an old Jeep motor, and indestructible.

I'd pay 8500 for it, but that's only because I've been jonsin' for a muscle car for the past 6 years (since my dad sold my 68 Cutlass).
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Where do you live?
 
Thump553

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As a former landlord, and someone who represents landlord's on occassion, without knowing any of the details it's my guess that if you allowed a tenant to fall $8500 behind your chances of recovering that in cash are on par with winning the lottery.

In other words, if the title is clean and the car half decent grab it, then research it and then make your decision whether to dump it or keep it.

Is part of the deal that you keep this tenant?
 
AMCRambler

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If it's got the 390 and the restoration is pretty good I'd go for it. As long as you don't need the money for a mortgage or something.

If it's painted up as one of the Big Bad colors, that will make it worth more. Also they had a Mark Donahue edition which had his signature on the trunk lid and ram air I think.
 
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FDF12389

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Originally posted by: Thump553
As a former landlord, and someone who represents landlord's on occassion, without knowing any of the details it's my guess that if you allowed a tenant to fall $8500 behind your chances of recovering that in cash are on par with winning the lottery.

In other words, if the title is clean and the car half decent grab it, then research it and then make your decision whether to dump it or keep it.

Is part of the deal that you keep this tenant?
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Yes, if he continues to make on time payments for the duration of his lease. Or I continue to evict.

Edit, should also add that this is not an ordinary lease, its part of a program that allows struggling families to get on their credit back on track.
 
BassBomb

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Originally posted by: FDF12389
Originally posted by: Thump553
As a former landlord, and someone who represents landlord's on occassion, without knowing any of the details it's my guess that if you allowed a tenant to fall $8500 behind your chances of recovering that in cash are on par with winning the lottery.

In other words, if the title is clean and the car half decent grab it, then research it and then make your decision whether to dump it or keep it.

Is part of the deal that you keep this tenant?
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Yes, if he continues to make on time payments for the duration of his lease. Or I continue to evict.

Edit, should also add that this is not an ordinary lease, its part of a program that allows struggling families to get on their credit back on track.
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That seems ironic
 
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FDF12389

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Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: FDF12389
Originally posted by: Thump553
As a former landlord, and someone who represents landlord's on occassion, without knowing any of the details it's my guess that if you allowed a tenant to fall $8500 behind your chances of recovering that in cash are on par with winning the lottery.

In other words, if the title is clean and the car half decent grab it, then research it and then make your decision whether to dump it or keep it.

Is part of the deal that you keep this tenant?
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Yes, if he continues to make on time payments for the duration of his lease. Or I continue to evict.

Edit, should also add that this is not an ordinary lease, its part of a program that allows struggling families to get on their credit back on track.
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That seems ironic
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I buy the house for less than market value, they rent from me at a very competitive rate, they have two, sometimes three years to straighten things out, then they buy the house back if they choose to do so. If they get behind more than 6 months I can evict and I own the house. Details vary between tenants, an agency works with them and finds investors on different terms depending on their circumstances.

Me and my father own two rentals through this program and five straight income properties. If this was one of the five he would already be gone.....



 
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mike2fix

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At the risk of dating my age, the Javelin was never a particularly desireable model, in general, most AMC's weren't, but the hot model is/was the AMX. I remember them well, having had Roadrunners, GTX's and Superbees during that timeframe, when true musclecars were king.
 
SearchMaster

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Let's face it, if it goes to court you're not going to get anything from him anyway. So I say it is indeed "free money" and take it. Then make sure he knows he's still on a short leash and will be evicted with the next missed payment.
 
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Pacfanweb

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If he's this far behind, then take the car (if it's nice)....what's your other choice, evict him? You're going to own the property eventually, anyway....if he's this far behind, he'll get behind again and you'll have to evict him later, anyway. Then you'll have the house AND a car.
 
Zenmervolt

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