What's the point of posting "Unban Member X" in your sig?

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn
Words are words, and they only become hateful and vulgar when they are directed at someone or something. When simply put into a list, they remain words and aren't an offense. If they offend you in said manner, you are oversensitive.

Says you, but it's offensive to some people whether it's directed at them or not. How would you like it if your nationality was used to denote something as something negative. So for instance, instead of calling a game 'gay' because it sucked, and calling it a racial slur instead. And not only that, but having it used regularly by people everywhere.

And BTW, did you read that thread... that wasn't his only hateful post.

I not only read and participated in the thread, but I talked to millennium one on one for quite awhile after. People are to sensitive if they let words hurt them. There are much worse things in the world, why should something someone says bother you so much?

And why should somebody elses banning bother YOU so much? Out of principle, i think you should not visit ATOT for a month... you know, to show solidarity for your friend. You know the 2nd last layer in Hell is for the traitors and betrayers, right?

Well, if you haven't notice, I'm trying to push the mods to see what it takes for them to ban me. If I get banned, I get banned. I have plenty of other things I can do. However, until I get banned, I will show discontent for a double standard against someone who I respected and talked to.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn
Words are words, and they only become hateful and vulgar when they are directed at someone or something. When simply put into a list, they remain words and aren't an offense. If they offend you in said manner, you are oversensitive.

Says you, but it's offensive to some people whether it's directed at them or not. How would you like it if your nationality was used to denote something as something negative. So for instance, instead of calling a game 'gay' because it sucked, and calling it a racial slur instead. And not only that, but having it used regularly by people everywhere.

And BTW, did you read that thread... that wasn't his only hateful post.

I not only read and participated in the thread, but I talked to millennium one on one for quite awhile after. People are to sensitive if they let words hurt them. There are much worse things in the world, why should something someone says bother you so much?

And why should somebody elses banning bother YOU so much? Out of principle, i think you should not visit ATOT for a month... you know, to show solidarity for your friend. You know the 2nd last layer in Hell is for the traitors and betrayers, right?

Well, if you haven't notice, I'm trying to push the mods to see what it takes for them to ban me. If I get banned, I get banned. I have plenty of other things I can do. However, until I get banned, I will show discontent for a double standard against someone who I respected and talked to.

Oh well, it's up to you on how you behave. Personally i would have more respect for somebody who took immediate action rather than acting in a juvenile manner.

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn
Words are words, and they only become hateful and vulgar when they are directed at someone or something. When simply put into a list, they remain words and aren't an offense. If they offend you in said manner, you are oversensitive.

Says you, but it's offensive to some people whether it's directed at them or not. How would you like it if your nationality was used to denote something as something negative. So for instance, instead of calling a game 'gay' because it sucked, and calling it a racial slur instead. And not only that, but having it used regularly by people everywhere.

And BTW, did you read that thread... that wasn't his only hateful post.

I not only read and participated in the thread, but I talked to millennium one on one for quite awhile after. People are to sensitive if they let words hurt them. There are much worse things in the world, why should something someone says bother you so much?

And why should somebody elses banning bother YOU so much? Out of principle, i think you should not visit ATOT for a month... you know, to show solidarity for your friend. You know the 2nd last layer in Hell is for the traitors and betrayers, right?

Well, if you haven't notice, I'm trying to push the mods to see what it takes for them to ban me. If I get banned, I get banned. I have plenty of other things I can do. However, until I get banned, I will show discontent for a double standard against someone who I respected and talked to.

Oh well, it's up to you on how you behave. Personally i would have more respect for somebody who took immediate action rather than acting in a juvenile manner.

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

 

[Pepsi90919]

all your base are belong to us.

 

[Looney]

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

LOL i don't even think you know what you're saying now.

 

[JC]

Why not try passive resistance? You know, when people get themselves arrested to show their dissatisfaction. Instead of adding lines to your sigs, how about getting yourselves banned to show your support?

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

LOL i don't even think you know what you're saying now.

Actually, I do, quite well. Insert the words "to be banned" after "takes" in the first sentence. Maybe that'll make more sense to you.

 

[bcterps]

I guess I don't see what the big deal is, you act like your civil rights are being trampled upon or something.

Yes, double standards exist here. There's nothing you can do about it, if you don't like it, then the best thing to do would be to leave. Maybe if enough members left someone would get the picture, although I highly doubt it.

Oh, and those of you who think that members of this forum make Anandtech the site it is, you are sadly mistaken. The forums are a leech on Anandtech's finances. They certainly don't make any money at all, but are run as a service for the tech community. This has been hashed and rehashed many times.

I know it's been said before, just because double standards exist doesn't mean they are right. Of course they aren't but if you're looking for a community elsewhere that doesn't have any double standards, you'll be looking for a long time.

Also, on the topic of Millenium being banned, he wasn't an innocent party either, he flew off the handle on some of his comments and was way out of line. People have been banned for way less.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

LOL i don't even think you know what you're saying now.

Actually, I do, quite well. Insert the words "to be banned" after "takes" in the first sentence. Maybe that'll make more sense to you.

No, what i meant was that if i was the one that was banned, i would have more respect for somebody who would follow and leave with me, than one who stays and continues to act up. It's like going to a bar, and your buddy gets kicked out. What would you rather have more respect for, you friend leaving the bar with you, or continue staying in the bar acting up? PERSONALLY, i would have more respect for my friend if he left the bar with me... and it would be a more mature behavior than continue to act out.

 

[PatboyX]

it was only temporary ban, eh?

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

LOL i don't even think you know what you're saying now.

Actually, I do, quite well. Insert the words "to be banned" after "takes" in the first sentence. Maybe that'll make more sense to you.

No, what i meant was that if i was the one that was banned, i would have more respect for somebody who would follow and leave with me, than one who stays and continues to act up. It's like going to a bar, and your buddy gets kicked out. What would you rather have more respect for, you friend leaving the bar with you, or continue staying in the bar acting up? PERSONALLY, i would have more respect for my friend if he left the bar with me... and it would be a more mature behavior than continue to act out.

Good point, and point taken. However, it's not quite the same thing.

 

[fatbaby]

If only the private topics forum was still alive. A few of us would form a seperatist forum where everyone can have posting freedom!

 

[Turin39789]

alright, who's putting "Unban Member X" in their sig?, his name is Millennium

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: fatbaby
If only the private topics forum was still alive. A few of us would form a seperatist forum where everyone can have posting freedom!

Yeah....it's really a shame those are gone...

 

[JC]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
alright, who's putting "Unban Member X" in their sig?, his name is Millennium

I'm not referring to Millennium. It's just a parody.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: JC

Originally posted by: Turin39789
alright, who's putting "Unban Member X" in their sig?, his name is Millennium

I'm not referring to Millennium. It's just a parody.

i dont get it

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

I don't consider testing to find out what it takes to be juvenile, but then again I also don't consider a list of words not directed at anyone to be offensive, and you do. Personally, I don't want you respect, because to gain your respect I would have to degrade myself morally. At least, that's what I've gathered from what you have said in this thread. In reality it may be very different.

LOL i don't even think you know what you're saying now.

Actually, I do, quite well. Insert the words "to be banned" after "takes" in the first sentence. Maybe that'll make more sense to you.

No, what i meant was that if i was the one that was banned, i would have more respect for somebody who would follow and leave with me, than one who stays and continues to act up. It's like going to a bar, and your buddy gets kicked out. What would you rather have more respect for, you friend leaving the bar with you, or continue staying in the bar acting up? PERSONALLY, i would have more respect for my friend if he left the bar with me... and it would be a more mature behavior than continue to act out.

Good point, and point taken. However, it's not quite the same thing.

i like your sig

 

[JC]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: JC

Originally posted by: Turin39789
alright, who's putting "Unban Member X" in their sig?, his name is Millennium

I'm not referring to Millennium. It's just a parody.

i dont get it

Ummm.....did you read the title of this thread??

 

[Turin39789]

i cant read

 

[JC]

Ah. Sarcasm.

Sorry, my Sarcasm Meter barely registered it

 

[Insane3D]

I will have part in this BAN or UNBAN sig thing!!! :|:|

:Q

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: benchiu
So no one has ever been unfairly banned from these boards before or something? You guys act like this is something new.

Thats the problem. This ISN'T something new, and this ban was for something important. If you want to be a homophobe, mysoginist, racist, etc... thats your perogative -- but you should be keeping it to yourself while you're here, or at least thats my understanding of the rules. Am I wrong?

However, the homophobes seem to be getting away with it, and Millenium got banned for pointing it out. That's just messed up. Further fueling the fire is the fact that they refuse to acknowledge the situation, lock threads, and threaten vacations. Its just wrong, its disrespectful to the community. It might be 'their' forums and they may have the right to squelch whatever speech they want, that doesn't change the fact that its wrong.

No, Millenium got banned for putting racial slurs in a post. Yes, he was addressing the homophobe comment, but he could have done so without the racial slurs. He could have also posted the original comment he made of the original post without such hateful words as well. Seems like there's a pattern here, and perhaps it's about time the mod are taking actions like these. /applaud

That just further points out the double standard. FelixDeKat called Millenium a i love you and nothing was done to him. Yet when Millenium pointed out that people can get away with calling someone a i love you, queer etc....but not get away with posting a racial slur he was banned. Seems that in fairness if Millenium was to be banned then FelixDeKat should have been as well. In realtiy what FelixDeKat did was actually worse since he used a slur to attack someone.

Are people really that surprised that racial slurs are taken more serious than homophobic comments? People have been using words like 'gay' in a negative connation thousands of times on here, and you don't see the mods taking action.

A slur is a slur is a slur

Say it with me now

DOUBLE STANDARD.

The mods a bunch of fvcking hypocrits. If you ban for one slur, you should be for all slurs. Period. Only incompetent mods would do half assed jobs moderating, and thats what the Anandtech Mods do, halfassed jobs.

 

[BlamoHammer]

I wonder what would happen if someone referred to a mod as a f-- lover. Think that would go unnoticed?

 

[Krugger]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
the point is that the little peons get their rocks off by thinking that:

a) this board is somehow a democracy

b) they have any say in how said 'democracy' is run and can hold votes and elections and petitions and such

c) they must 'fight the power' ... even though the 'power' pays the bills.

A. It has nothing to do with Democracy, it has to do with double standards.

B. Nobody wants a say in who is or isn't banned. What they want is a set of rules that will be followed fairly and not have judgments handed down on a whim.

C. If it weren't for the traffic these forums generate there wouldn't be any $ to pay the bills.

A. which in turn has to do with democracy, since the kiddies think that since they're a member of this community they're like a stockholder and have say in what goes in the corporation. ATOT can have any kind of double standard they want.

B. the user in question had it coming for a long time anyway. this, i'm sure, pushed him over the edge.

C. i don't think ATOT helps anand's pocketbook any.

mod·er·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mdr-t)
adj.

1. Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme: a moderate price.
2. Not violent or subject to extremes; mild or calm; temperate: a moderate climate.

Emphasis mine. Banning people who disagree with you is not within reasonable limits. Locking threads that discuss ATOT community issues, just because they happen to be about moderators is not reasonable. Banning someone for 30 days for pointing out an obvious flaw in the methods used to keep this place within reasonable limits is both excessive and extreme. Are you getting the picture yet?

The fact is, the moderators are not living up to the title they have been given. We are members of this community, and we are concerned about it. If you're not, fine, good for you. You'll make a good dictator someday.

um, that was an adj. not the verb, to moderate.... totally different word.
v. mod·er·at·ed, mod·er·at·ing, mod·er·ates (md-rt)
To preside over:
She was chosen to moderate the convention.

 

[troglodytis]

UNBAN MILLENIUM