whats the point of having a large micro sd card in a phone with 4gb of storage or les

Naer

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You can't even direct download apps to the sd card? or is there a way?
 
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Does Marshmallow allow an SD card to appear like one large storage continuous with the internal storage?

I agree that the 4GB will completely screw you. My gf is struggling with the 16gb on her GS5 and even if you move all your apps to the SD card, a portion still must reside on the internal storage.
 

RockinZ28

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You're supposed to pay the $100 for an extra 16gb internal storage, instead of like $25 for a 64gb card fools!
 

Naer

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would like to keep this 4gb phone and just use an sd card to download apps
 

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i had a free LG L70 from metro PCS. internal storage was puny but i had no problem moving the apps to the mSD card. it was on kitkat too.
in settings, apps, then select an app you want to move to SD card, an option will be available to move to SD
 

RockinZ28

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Thought Google removed that feature when they started releasing Nexus phones without msd slots, and now you need root to do it.
 

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I use sd slot for camera. Great esp when I buy a new phone I can just move my camera images to the new phone.
 

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Thought Google removed that feature when they started releasing Nexus phones without msd slots, and now you need root to do it.

Ugh, I totally forgot about that. Hasnt been an issue for me as I root all my devices.

I Googled 'use extSdCard as download location' and got tons of hits. So theoretically it can be done.
 

mnewsham

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You're supposed to pay the $100 for an extra 16gb internal storage, instead of like $25 for a 64gb card fools!


implying mSD cards and internal storage use the same type of flash storage? Please, there is a reason they dont let you put most apps on mSD cards, and its because the read/write speeds compared to internal storage are a joke. And the IOPS performance is subpar as well. This isn't even to mention the much lowered expected life time of an mSD card. Internal storage is meant to be written to a LOT, mSD cards however have a fairly finite number of write cycles they can endure before they start to fail.


Comparing an mSD to a phones internal storage would be like comparing a USB flash drive next to an SSD.
 

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implying mSD cards and internal storage use the same type of flash storage? Please, there is a reason they dont let you put most apps on mSD cards, and its because the read/write speeds compared to internal storage are a joke. And the IOPS performance is subpar as well. This isn't even to mention the much lowered expected life time of an mSD card. Internal storage is meant to be written to a LOT, mSD cards however have a fairly finite number of write cycles they can endure before they start to fail.


Comparing an mSD to a phones internal storage would be like comparing a USB flash drive next to an SSD.
Even with those issues doesnt mean they had to remove it as an option entirely. Could have just popped up a warning like, hey performance may suffer or you may lose your app data if you install to extsd.

Never gave me any grief back when it was supported natively. Was basically a necessity when phones had like 4-8gb standard internal and you had single games over 1gb.
 

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Does Marshmallow allow an SD card to appear like one large storage continuous with the internal storage?

Yes. An SD card can be formatted in such a way, "adopted," that to the OS, it just looks like more internal storage. Although it seems unlikely that the phone in question would be running Android 6.0.

implying mSD cards and internal storage use the same type of flash storage? Please, there is a reason they dont let you put most apps on mSD cards, and its because the read/write speeds compared to internal storage are a joke. And the IOPS performance is subpar as well.

True. Using the SD card for apps/app data could add a second or two to its launch time rendering the phone unusable. :rolleyes:

-KeithP
 

shabby

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Does Marshmallow allow an SD card to appear like one large storage continuous with the internal storage?

Yes but when will these 2gb/4gb phones actually get marshmallow?
A coworker has one those BLU phones with 2gb of storage, she installed a 32gb sdcard and asked me why does it say not enough storage when installing an app.
She pretty much only has one app installed wechat and it's hoarding all the storage. Couldn't even install a file manager to delete anything, had to move pictures to the pc and delete them from the phone then i could install a file manager and delete wechats cache of junk.
 

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If you have a phone that has only 4Gb probably means it still on 4.xx.
No, you can't install apps on the sd cards.
 

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My Moto E has only 4gb storage out of which only 2gb is available. Despite me having a 32gb micro SD card, apps still have to be downloaded on phone memory.
Well atleast now i know my next phone will have to have minimum 16gb storage.
 

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I'm on 5.1.1 on an S5 and I have the option to move to SD storage?

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mohit9206

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I'm on 5.1.1 on an S5 and I have the option to move to SD storage?

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Brah when you move an app to sd card only the apk file is moved, the rest of the massive app data remains on the internal storage. So basically moving app to sd card feature is completely useless unless you root your phone.
 

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I'm on 5.1.1 on an S5 and I have the option to move to SD storage?

Yeah Samsung built the feature into Touchwiz way before Google built it into stock Android. The feature came about in the Galaxy S4 era when Samsung caught a lot of heat because so much of the 16GB internal storage was dedicated to untouchable OS and system apps. So they rolled out an update that allowed you to move apps to the SD card. The Galaxy S5 kept it but obviously the S6 didn't.

The only reason Google backed down on SD cards is because the Android One program showed them that in emerging markets there wasn't the network capacity you need to stick everything in a cloud. Or heck the budgets don't allow enough storage space to be in the actual phone. That is why Marshmallow is so accommodating in comparison to KitKat.

I have kinda given up on SD cards personally. Even with the fastest one I can buy my photos load slower than on the internal memory of my old M8. Give me 32 or 64GB of superfast internal storage and I am happy. Despite dragging them around I never have watched a movie on my phone.
 

shabby

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The only reason Google backed down on SD cards is because the Android One program showed them that in emerging markets there wasn't the network capacity you need to stick everything in a cloud. Or heck the budgets don't allow enough storage space to be in the actual phone. That is why Marshmallow is so accommodating in comparison to KitKat.

So glad it backfired, they can shove that cloud up their ass.
 

Naer

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Im looking at a new phone to replace this 4gb phone. Its a lg fuel. Its 3.5 inches. I like smaller phones

Ive narrowed my choices to either a galaxy s5 mini or a galaxy alphy . S5 mini has quadcore processor and the alphy has qualcom. S5 mini has 16 gb internal storage and the alphy has 32. They are about the same price. S5 very little pricier and the s5 is 2" smaller which i like. Help me decide
 

shabby

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Alphy or alpha? I'd go with the alpha, better cpu/camera but no microsd and a somewhat smallish battery.
 

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implying mSD cards and internal storage use the same type of flash storage? Please, there is a reason they dont let you put most apps on mSD cards, and its because the read/write speeds compared to internal storage are a joke. And the IOPS performance is subpar as well. This isn't even to mention the much lowered expected life time of an mSD card. Internal storage is meant to be written to a LOT, mSD cards however have a fairly finite number of write cycles they can endure before they start to fail.


Comparing an mSD to a phones internal storage would be like comparing a USB flash drive next to an SSD.


LOL, had no noticable performance issues with apps running on my sd card on my galaxy s4.

although i do admit, my 64gig sandisk SD card did eventually fail and was a hassle to swap cards and install apps over again. sandisk did replace the card though.