What's the most logical video card for this machine

jfelano

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I sold my i5 gaming machine last year cause, well quite frankly I'm getting too old to play computer games and I have carpal tunnel and my vision is going so I sold it and am building a "Green" office/theatre PC.

Well now I want to play the new Deus Ex since I found out about it, so, can I play it if I get a video card? What would be the max video card I can get that won't be limited by my mobo or cpu?

It's a (AMD5350) 25w Kabini Quad core 2.05ghz. 8GB of DDR3 1600, a 256 SSD on a Asus AM1M-A mobo.

I have plenty of PSU so that's not a factor. My 22" monitor is 1680x1050.

I realize it won't be much of a video card, probably limited mostly by the mobo's pci slot limitations, so any suggestions will be helpful.
 

sm625

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Your CPU would need to be overclocked roughly 40% just to meet the published minimum specs for that game. Apparently you need a CPU capable of a passmark score of 3600/1000.
 
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jfelano

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Hmm that's odd verified purchasers are saying it plays skyrim and far cry 2 at 30+ with older cards like 7750. Maybe I'll just find out and see and post results. I don't need 1080p or max effects, just want to play it.
 

sm625

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Hmm that's odd verified purchasers are saying it plays skyrim and far cry 2 at 30+ with older cards like 7750. Maybe I'll just find out and see and post results. I don't need 1080p or max effects, just want to play it.

According to passmark at least, you are actually surprisingly close to meeting the minimum requirements for that game. I'm sure it will play it if you have something like a GTX950 or the upcoming RX460. But there will probably be moments where it stutters. If you are using a system like that and not pulling your hair out on a daily basis, then this stuttering may not be a dealbreaker for you.
 

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And this kids is why you should never, ever downgrade a general computing device to an advertising niche for no reason.

And before other posters bamboozle you into purchasing a video card for that APU, remember that the CPU on that APU already bottlenecks the GPU on that APU.

Kabini and Atom are complete wastes of space.
 
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Thinker_145

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And this kids is why you should never, ever downgrade a general computing device to an advertising niche for no reason.

And before other posters bamboozle you into purchasing a video card for that APU, remember that the CPU on that APU already bottlenecks the GPU on that APU.

Kabini and Atom are complete wastes of space.
This.

And OP you need a new CPU and mobo before thinking of getting a graphic card.
 

.vodka

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Sorry, but as stated above that 5150 just isn't powerful enough to benefit from a GPU upgrade. It's just enough for the integrated GPU and that's it.

A cheap H81 motherboard + a i3 4170 should give you some actual CPU grunt to think of installing a proper video card to game. $200-250 cards like RX480 and the upcoming GTX1060 (if nV goes easy on pricing) should eat 1680x1050 for breakfast. Step up to an i5 or i7 if you feel like it, a i7 4790k is so overpowered these days that despite being two-three year old hardware it's still got years and years of useful life left for two or three higher tiers of GPUs if you want.

This way you get to reuse everything else in your build, you just take out the motherboard and the APU. I know you decided to sell your gaming machine before and downgraded... but really there isn't any other way here if you want to game again. It's not happening with that APU. See for yourself, look at this and this.
 
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guachi

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Unless you are absolutely never ever going to do anything taxing on your machine, the Atom/Kabini aren't particularly useful.

I bought a Kabini 5350 this year for a computer converted from desktop use by the spouse to HTPC usage since 2013. The mobo died after the cats wrecked some of the connections on the back.

The computer needs to successfully turn on and off, boot to Windows, play videos - DVDs and recorded 480 and 1080 content, and successfully surf to websites like Amazon and Netflix to successfully play 480 and 1080 streaming content.

If you are jonesing to play games, you can get an 8320e and motherboard for $140 from microcenter. It's probably as cheap as you can go (new) to get something playable. You can even reuse your RAM. Either that or buy an Intel system like mentioned above.

The 470 will be $150 when it's finally released. So that's $290 right there for AMD and that might be as cheap as you can get.
 

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If you don't have a Microcenter near you I would consider grabbing a new P7H55D-M EVO board off ebay ($80). Then getting a used Xeon X3440 ($25). Its essentially a lower clocked i7 860. But from my experience with them they are actually binned better and require less volts for the same overclocks. Total cost $105. If you want to go really cheap then grab an X3430 (no hyperthreading) for $15 for a total cost of $95.
 

MarkizSchnitzel

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Why would anyone put old AMD CPUs now in a "green" office/theater PC?
Makes no sense to me. Those should be lower TDP -> quieter, no? Something like i3/5 S/T models?
 

guachi

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The lowest i3 you can get is 35w I think. The kabini is 25w. It's also $70 cheaper for the chip. I'm not certain if the board is cheaper, though it might be.

The i3 would be great if I planned to do light gaming, but it'll never happen. If I did, like the OP states he does, the i3 is a fine chip.
 

Stuka87

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Why would anyone put old AMD CPUs now in a "green" office/theater PC?
Makes no sense to me. Those should be lower TDP -> quieter, no? Something like i3/5 S/T models?

Kabini isn't old really. And a 25W CPU is going to be very quiet.
 

VirtualLarry

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Has no-one mentioned the fact that the PCI-E slot on those boards isn't x16 electrically? (I think it's x4.)
 

SPBHM

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Has no-one mentioned the fact that the PCI-E slot on those boards isn't x16 electrically? (I think it's x4.)

the CPU speed it's the main problem, the PCIE x4 2.0 limitation wont help, but his CPU is not even as fast as a Q6600 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1223?vs=53

anyway, if you really want to play the new deus ex game, I think it supports DX12, so it might help a little, the game might be playable, but still not great, it makes sense to upgrade the CPU...