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What's the most hated (work) department?

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It's a three way toss up between accounting, finance, and legal for me. Those three organizations are always the ones that hold up my hardware and software purchases, and subject my department to countless audits.
 
Marketing: probably most overpaid
Sales: probably second most overpaid
Finance: smart snobs
HR: anal anuses
IT: computer snobs that think everyone is noob at computers then gets pwned by a non-IT "enthusiasts"
Engineering: plays cards all day
 
If anybody here works for any big name courier company I believe they would tell you it's the damage/repacks department. So many package that's improperly packaged (insufficient inner packaging, not sturdy enough box, insufficient taping) commercial products, industrial goods, retail food can/glass/bottle products, home moving goods, etc. that end up in my area. On top of that, sorters treat freight like basketballs, shooting/throwing anything and everything into monos (big heavy box on top of small ones, leaking liquid box on top of everything else) doesn't really help the matter either.

Every morning my area looks like complete wreck, like a car collision scene.

So many freight boxes tossed together like salad, and having to sort through them, figure out which contents goes into which box, no packing slips. It's a real pain sometimes.

The only positive worth mentioning is that I'm pretty much my own boss, segregated from the retail side upfront, although my department is still considered a part of retail and we share the same upper management. I can go on breaks whenever and however long, within limit, and leave or stay however long as well. Don't really have to deal with customers either, which is the big bonus.
 
Originally posted by: UCJefe
If you have done any sort of hiring whatsoever, you will know the correct answer to this question... HR, hands down. Their lunch hours last longer than their working hours.
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Of the many terrible things you could accuse HR of that would be true, I don't think that's one of them. (At least, not in my company - maybe different other places.)
 
It's a toss-up between the IT folks and the HR folks. The IT folks because they are too focused on new and/or interesting technology rather than focusing on things to help develop the business. The HR folks because they are generally more concerned with preventing potential lawsuits than doing what's right.
 
HR for sure . . . usually full of unqualified English majors. Exception: Some bigger HR dept's have a tiny few who show some competence, say maybe an attorney, etc. But predominantly, HR isn't where the talented lively ambitious hard-workers are. Another complaint: I once worked where HR would reject a girl applicant if she was pretty. They actually joked about it. That turned me off to HR for life. Boooo!

Next: Sales, soaked in alcohol, glad-handing gasbags who don't work hard, don't understand what it is they're selling, live high on the company dime, with lots of parties, seminars, entertainment of customers, overall life's just a big party. Frat rats go here.

Then: IT, staffed with people who have less than zero, actually NEGATIVE human relation skills. Seem to go out of their way to be unavailable and unhelpful.

I'll stop at: Accounting. Euphemistically call themselves "Finance" although they usually have nothing whatsoever to do with finance (floating stock issues and bonds, mergers acquisitions divestitures, etc.) and full of anal people who can't see the big strategic reasons for initiatives, & who impede activities critical to the company's next big competitive program win.

Then if the place has a labor union, forget everything else, the union people are the worst by far, no comparison. I hit that wall in places where they're unionized all the way up into higher management, like Australia, UK, other.

I doubt you?ll attain your presumed goal of >= 100 replies to your thread here.
 
Originally posted by: scott
HR for sure . . . usually full of unqualified English majors. Exception: Some bigger HR dept's have a tiny few who show some competence, say maybe an attorney, etc. But predominantly, HR isn't where the talented lively ambitious hard-workers are. Another complaint: I once worked where HR would reject a girl applicant if she was pretty. They actually joked about it. That turned me off to HR for life. Boooo!

Next: Sales, soaked in alcohol, glad-handing gasbags who don't work hard, don't understand what it is they're selling, live high on the company dime, with lots of parties, seminars, entertainment of customers, overall life's just a big party. Frat rats go here.

Then: IT, staffed with people who have less than zero, actually NEGATIVE human relation skills. Seem to go out of their way to be unavailable and unhelpful.

I'll stop at: Accounting. Euphemistically call themselves "Finance" although they usually have nothing whatsoever to do with finance (floating stock issues and bonds, mergers acquisitions divestitures, etc.) and full of anal people who can't see the big strategic reasons for initiatives, & who impede activities critical to the company's next big competitive program win.

Then if the place has a labor union, forget everything else, the union people are the worst by far, no comparison. I hit that wall in places where they're unionized all the way up into higher management, like Australia, UK, other.

I doubt you?ll attain your presumed goal of >= 100 replies to your thread here.
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QFT!!!!!!!!!!

Use HR's weakness to your own advantage. Use it and use it well. That's the mastery of the game. HR is the queen, move her around the board and threaten with it, striking when you can. Then give up the queen to gain strategical advantage and posiition.

Basically the game is won when you use HR to strike all your opponents on the board and then get rid of the VP of HR and his direct reports. They are left powerless.
 
Originally posted by: scott
I doubt you?ll attain your presumed goal of >= 100 replies to your thread here.
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Hm? I don't need 100 replies to this one, this is just for my own info. I figured HR would come up as the top.
 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Well, ethically it's sales or upper management. As a consumer you can add customer service to that list. As a worker it's either upper management or HR.
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Why HR?

my vote is clean up janitor on a pron set.
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Well, ethically it's sales or upper management. As a consumer you can add customer service to that list. As a worker it's either upper management or HR.
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Why HR?

my vote is clean up janitor on a pron set.
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For me it's political correctness. Few things rile my tail feathers like that can. Also in my experience they tend to be a super buy-in crowd. Buy-in to this, buy-in to that idea, etc. They're the equivalent of pep squad in high school.

Mind you, I was talking about which department workers in a business generally detest most, not which department people would least want to work in. Whole different issue then.
 
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Where's the accounting button? For me it's a toss up between Accounting or Marketing. Neither can follow even the simplest instructions and both like to push their weight around until projects reach stalemate.
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Yep, hate both of those departments.
 
Freakin IT. They decided to cut off a whole bunch of stuff on our laptop thus making them useless to bring in the field. Luckily this hotel has a wired access point so I can get online and check my email.

At my old job the people in marketing were morons. They always had some big idea that never made since with how the real world operated, and the head chick was so so so dumb.

BTW, im in application sales and its no walk in the park.
 
Originally posted by: scott
HR for sure . . . usually full of unqualified English majors. Exception: Some bigger HR dept's have a tiny few who show some competence, say maybe an attorney, etc. But predominantly, HR isn't where the talented lively ambitious hard-workers are. Another complaint: I once worked where HR would reject a girl applicant if she was pretty. They actually joked about it. That turned me off to HR for life. Boooo!

Next: Sales, soaked in alcohol, glad-handing gasbags who don't work hard, don't understand what it is they're selling, live high on the company dime, with lots of parties, seminars, entertainment of customers, overall life's just a big party. Frat rats go here.

Then: IT, staffed with people who have less than zero, actually NEGATIVE human relation skills. Seem to go out of their way to be unavailable and unhelpful.

I'll stop at: Accounting. Euphemistically call themselves "Finance" although they usually have nothing whatsoever to do with finance (floating stock issues and bonds, mergers acquisitions divestitures, etc.) and full of anal people who can't see the big strategic reasons for initiatives, & who impede activities critical to the company's next big competitive program win.

Then if the place has a labor union, forget everything else, the union people are the worst by far, no comparison. I hit that wall in places where they're unionized all the way up into higher management, like Australia, UK, other.

I doubt you?ll attain your presumed goal of >= 100 replies to your thread here.
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Yeah right, I wish sales were like that. The again, I work for a japanese based company and those guys work very hard in japan (in my opinion way too much) and those work ethics carry over to the states.
 
Sales and Marketing wouldn't know the truth if it bit them, but HR is a nasty puppetmaster that is never held accountable for the games they make out of other people's lives.
 
Where's the SOX compliance group in that poll?

I would say IT here. We get these projects from the higher-ups that should help business. They do NOT understand things like time to design/code, proper testing or documentation of any sort. Most of our projects change the programs users have been doing for years. They then sit back and let IT take the heat for their ideas.

Originally posted by: scott Next: Sales, soaked in alcohol, glad-handing gasbags who don't work hard, don't understand what it is they're selling, live high on the company dime, with lots of parties, seminars, entertainment of customers, overall life's just a big party. Frat rats go here.
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I really think your company needs to re-eval your sales dept if that is truly all they do. I was a commissioned salesman for 4 years and it was very hard work.
 
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