What's the most complex strategy game you know of


Sep 10, 2001
Anyone ever play Victoria: Empire Under the Sun by Paradox Entertainment? Now THAT was a good strategy game! Economic/industrial system was so awesome! But it's a bit old now and I'm looking for something fresh.

Any suggestions?

Something where you build up nation or region with factories/infrastructure what-not and develop your economy, industry and military.

I consider Civ 4's system (which is alot of fun mind you, and I do greatly enjoy playing it) is child's play compared to what I'm looking for right now to satisfy my hunger