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What's the highest number you can put in the Windows calculator

Rubycon

Rubycon

Madame President
That the calculation is going to take a while giving you the option to continue or stop?

Run calc.exe, switch to scientific view and type in a number and hit the ! key. Start out with 5000 (modern cpu will find the answer practically instantaneously) and go upwards from there. ! means factorial so one takes the original number and multiplies it by the next smaller number and so on. Numbers get huge when doing this.

On a QX9650 at 400x10, right around 50,000! causes it. The window just flickers as the answer shows up in the window. Kind of like watching a film where a frame or two is spliced in that is totally different - you know something was there but have no idea.

I remember 5000 being around the limit for a Katmai PIII 600. 10x increase and that is only pushing ONE core. It would be amazing if it used all four. (is that possible like reverse HT?)

Ok this may sound more software oriented but we are testing cpu performance. 😉
 
Well, I checked the windows manager and it shows it utilizing both cores, but no more than 50%... interesting way to bench anyways 😉

35000 on a PentiumD 820.
 
I hit the n! button with 5000 and then I hit the n! button again.

I've gotten the popup three times from that one calculation so far.

edit: maxing out only one core in vista.

fourth popup.
 
Originally posted by: nonameo
I hit the n! button with 5000 and then I hit the n! button again.

I've gotten the popup three times from that one calculation so far.

edit: maxing out only one core in vista.

fourth popup.
Click to expand...
4.2285779266055435222010642002336e+16325! is going to be a HUGE number! :Q

EDIT: I'd say the Earth will probably run out of oil before that is calculated. :Q

Or clicking on those popups until it finishes is similar to this.

:laugh:
 
got the dialog box at 35000! for me , but none at 34900!
did I again at 35000! to see if it had improved... but still got the dialog for a split second....
then none at 34950! again....

Using AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice Core @ 2.2 GHz with Asus A8N-VM-CSM and 1GB of DDR 400 RAM on Win XP....

Nice way to bench raw power! but this only makes use of 1 core.... I wish there were some program out there using multiple threads to do this and use all cores of a quad (jus ordered my QX9650 a week back!!!!! YAY!!!)

Am gonna write a lil app that uses all 4 cores or 2 cores or single core (depending on the CPU) and then I will link it here n u guys can test it out.... currently a lil busy with my semester exams though 🙁 bummer
 
i did 50000 in vista 64 and got no dialog box.... so *shrug* anyone else using vista?


edit-- ok just randomly tried 100,000 and it gave me the dialog box but even at 65,000 I didn't get it.
 
how come on a QX9650 at 400X10 it hit the dialog at 50000! while for "bfdd" with an E6600 at 3.2ghz it didnt even hit the dialog at 65000???

 
@rubycon....
the pitch drop experiment link u sent was cool.... 😀
I always thought pitch was a brittle (semi) solid....

 
Originally posted by: bfdd
i did 50000 in vista 64 and got no dialog box.... so *shrug* anyone else using vista?


edit-- ok just randomly tried 100,000 and it gave me the dialog box but even at 65,000 I didn't get it.
Click to expand...
Ditto. Vista64 is actually an interesting situation, Calc is a 64bit application which means it can use 64bit integers. Depending on the method MS is using to handle oversized integers, handling them in 64bit chunks would be significantly faster than 32bit chunks.
 
An interesting question would be whether the result is even remotely CORRECT
when you start dealing with large calculations like that.

Not that long ago I spent considerable time debugging calclation problems that
were blowing up and giving unreasonably bad results in all sorts of ways.

I tried C, I tried Fortran, I tried double precision, I tried quad precision, it was
all garbage even though the formulae were quite short, simple, and
reputedly reasonably well conditioned.

I started using software that used exact precision or large number / arbitrary
precision calculations (e.g. possibly many thousands or more decimal places) and
voila it worked MUCH better.

Most people would be surprised at just what a SIMPLE calculation with reasonable size
numbers and just a few terms can give a basically uselessly bad result
even in 64 bit / double precision math.

Try this one if you want to do some interestingly large factorial and similar
calculations with a text entry calculator like interface:

http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/

For programming with lower level languages:

http://gmplib.org/


The result in PARI/GP is effectively instantaneous out to 20,000 digits precision
even on this old Athlon 64-3000. Actually it's SHOCKING how BAD and LIMITED
the Windows Calculator is in this day and age. For all the hundreds of
"calculator" programs out there (calc, excel, whatever), there seem to be darn
few that actually CALCULATE usefully correctly / robustly and efficiently.


? \p 20000
realprecision = 20007 significant digits (20000 digits displayed)
? 50000!
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Originally posted by: AdamK47
77000 with an E8400 @ 4050MHz, 680i @ 450MHz, and 4GB DDR2 @ 1050 5-4-4-12.
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About the same for me with a q6600 @ 3.4 in Vista x64
 
Originally posted by: bfdd
Must not happen in Vista, I just get a lil action cursor then it shows me the result.
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I did 50,000! then ! the result of that and got a pop up telling me it'd take a very long time to complete. Just popped up a second time.
 
72,000 is when the diag starts popping for me, but between 72000-73500 I don't even get time to click "stop" before it finishes calculating it. I can do 71500 without it popping up the diag, haven't tried anything between 71500 and 72000, but I'm sure somewhere inbetween is my max. This is a E6600 @ 3.2ghz 8x400.
 
I got a pop up around 50000 in WinXP. Also, the MS Calculator is not using both cores. Only CPU1 is taxed to about 90% usage when calculating; dualcore or quadcore wont' really matter here.

I think this is dependent on OS setting. It's probably an internal timer of Calculator that was set to give a popup if answer does not come up for X secs. In Vista, the setting may be different. Or is Vista calculator using all cores?

 
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