So what is it so different with 9800 Pro 128MB? Anyone who got it, what's your impression? I have it but don't see too much difference. In other words, waste of $500 bux! :|
What's the fuss about Radeon 9800 XT
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The only difference is it's clocked a few mhz higher than a pro. I agree that it's not worth an extra $200 over the pro.
Welcome to the world of high end overpriced cards. Population: The Radeon 9800XT and 9800 256MB and the GeForce FX 5950 and 5900 Ultra!
The fuss is it's arguably the best and fastest video card for gamers currently available, and it looks like it will till next spring. Some people are willing to pay premium for that.
9800 XTs are clocked higher, and have 256MB of memory, so they may be worth it. 6XAA in 1600X1200 would probably take advantage of the extra mem.
If you're playing at 1600x1200 you don't need 6x AA anyway. That's complete overkill.
We don't need anymore AA, we need more complex modeling!
/me rants
More and more future games will make use of 256MB cards for more high-res textures. UT2K3 might support a mode for 256MB cards, and CoD definitely does.
All overdrive does is overclock the card, and not by as much as you can get by manually overclocking.
Secondly, VPU recover was a feature added to all Radeon cards.
It also has 256meg, not 128megs. Thermal diode to read the core temps. Overdrive. New fan design that covers ram too. And HL2 for free.
As you can see, more than just "clocked a few mhz higher".
You can also get the 9800 pro with 256mb of ram, so I don't consider it to be adding much. Besides, I consider 256mb more than we need currently. I also believe sapphire is supposed to make a 128mb version of the 9800xt.
The temp monitoring is nice. I'm shocked that it hasn't been adopted for all cards. I find it fairly handy for monitoring temps on my cards.
And yes, it does have a nice new fan. Overall though, I don't think these ehancements are worth $200 more. I'll let you decide if a bump in clock speeds plus the other additions make it worth it to you though.
The 9800XT simply isn't worth the money. It's not a revolutionary card, in fact it's not even a evolutionary one.
The onboard thermal diode has been around for a while, of course not on video cards, and frankly doesn't really bring any truely useful function to the scene.
If you overclock your card and you get artifacts, guess what, it's clocked to high.
For small 5% increase in overall speed ATi is doing nothing more than taking advantage of those less educated about what thier getting at a premium price.
This is very similar to the situation between the 9800 and the 9800 Pro, except of course in reverse.
I have a 9800 Pro myself and I do like the card, however my card does XT speeds already.
It would be better to wait until Spring before rushing out and paying to much now.
You know for the extra that you pay for the XT you could go out and get a decent watercooling system. <<<< A much better idea all the way around
The onboard thermal diode has been around for a while, of course not on video cards, and frankly doesn't really bring any truely useful function to the scene.
If you overclock your card and you get artifacts, guess what, it's clocked to high.
For small 5% increase in overall speed ATi is doing nothing more than taking advantage of those less educated about what thier getting at a premium price.
This is very similar to the situation between the 9800 and the 9800 Pro, except of course in reverse.
I have a 9800 Pro myself and I do like the card, however my card does XT speeds already.
It would be better to wait until Spring before rushing out and paying to much now.
You know for the extra that you pay for the XT you could go out and get a decent watercooling system. <<<< A much better idea all the way around
I got myself a 9800XT... and id say its worth it. Call it $450 since it will (eventually) include HL2. Regular BBA 9800 Pro's are going for ~$350, so its only $100 more for an extra 128 megs of ram and faster mem/core.
It's really not as expensive as everyones making it out to be.
It's really not as expensive as everyones making it out to be.
The XT is supposed to have a tweak or two in its pixel shaders, allowing it to perform faster than previous 9800's in PS-heavy benches, clock for clock.
ATi isn't ripping people off with the 9800XT. For the same price as the 9800P 256MB, they now offer a faster card with cooler memory and an excellent bundled game. What's not to like?
All of you arguing that's it's smarter to buy a 9800 and OC it to XT levels conveniently avoid the fact that OC'ing is not guaranteed and requires extra work on the user's part. Not everyone wants to put in the extra time.
ATi isn't ripping people off with the 9800XT. For the same price as the 9800P 256MB, they now offer a faster card with cooler memory and an excellent bundled game. What's not to like?
All of you arguing that's it's smarter to buy a 9800 and OC it to XT levels conveniently avoid the fact that OC'ing is not guaranteed and requires extra work on the user's part. Not everyone wants to put in the extra time.
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