Whats the difference bewteen scripting and programming?

[Blackjack200]

If I've got a simple task to do (eg the text-file-of-URLS example) then I knock it up in shell script. By the time that simple task has feature-creeped up to more than 20 lines I start to wish I'd written it in Perl. So I rewrite. By the time that Perl script has crept up to more than 200 lines I start to wish it was written in Python. So I rewrite. By the time that Python script has crept up to 2000 lines I start to wish I'd farmed the job out to a team of programmers, and I give up caring what language its written in and make them do it as a web service. Then I write a small shell script to call their web service. When that shell script has feature-creeped up to more than 20 lines...

Heh, that's pretty good.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

-----Programming-----
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Scripting(JS/VBS) Compiling(C++/VB)
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-----Helpdesk Staff----
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-----Cleaners-----
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-----Amoeba-----
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-----Project Managers-----

 

[rivan]

scripting is interpreted by an application.

programming is making that application.

^ Only good answer.

Yeah, because programmers don't use compilers to interpret (and compile) their code.

 

[Zeze]

-----Programming-----
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Scripting(JS/VBS) Compiling(C++/VB)
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-----Helpdesk Staff----
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-----Cleaners-----
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-----Amoeba-----
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-----Project Managers-----

Don't get mad because we use you and tell you what to do.

 

[Arcadio]

The unfortunate side effect of high level languages such as .NET flavors and Java, is that "programmers" who are introduced into programming at this level actually don't know how to program for obsolete systems. The industry is in a really sad state right now.

Fixed

 

[Stuxnet]

Don't get mad because we use you and tell you what to do.

Don't get mad that we actually have more influence and authority than you do

A couple leads and I were actually feeling sorry for a PM one day when one of our senior devs graphed each of our roles in terms of authority and accountability. If x=Accountability and Y=Authority, Project Managers are at (inf, 0).

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Don't get mad because we use you and tell you what to do.

I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say: "yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that". Fuck it I will just restart apache every 10 requests.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Fixed

Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OSs is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders

 

[Stuxnet]

I'm not a real programmer. I throw together things until it works then I move on. The real programmers will say: "yeah it works but you're leaking memory everywhere. Perhaps we should fix that". Fuck it I will just restart apache every 10 requests.

That's not funny - I actually had one of my devs say that to me once (except we were talking about IIS, not Apache).

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

That's not funny - I actually had one of my devs say that to me once (except we were talking about IIS, not Apache).

haha then what did you do?

 

[FoBoT]

i think LiuKangBakinPie most closely would understand my point of view on this topic

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

i think LiuKangBakinPie most closely would understand my point of view on this topic

 

[PimpJuice]

there are programming languages that are run by interpreters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpreted_language


so the answer is:

'programmers' call computer code 'programming'
engineers or administrators call computer code 'scripting'

it is basically an elitist thing, 'programmers' think they are better than everybody else
someone that writes a 'script' just want to get the job done and go back to neffing/playing WoW/hacking something, etc etc

also, if the code is part of a project, i.e. a project manager/budget is involved, then the code is 'programming'
if the code is part of ongoing operations/maintenance activity/there is no chance to climb the corporate ladder from the use of the code, then it is scripting

This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

 

[alkemyst]

Programming is the parent category

Scripting is a subset.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Programming is like sex, one mistake and you're providing support for a lifetime.

 

[Modelworks]

scripting - telling the computer what you want done
programming - telling the computer how to do what you want done

 

[Stuxnet]

haha then what did you do?

Had a senior developer mentor her as the two of them tracked down the leak. She's actually one of my least favorite people. Ever.

 

[janas19]

Scripting is interpreted at run time, and is synonymous with a "macro"; it instructs the computer to perform actions based on applications and tools already present on the system, and interacts with resources at the user level.

Programming generally results in compiled code, it instructs the processor to perform operations and interact with resources at the machine level.

The unfortunate side effect of high level languages such as .NET flavors and Java, is that "programmers" who are introduced into programming at this level actually don't know how to program. The industry is in a really sad state right now.

I likey!

 

[Phoenix86]

I love all the definitions, some of which are the same damn thing with an insignificant difference.

It's like trying to define engineer. /popcorn

 

[Paul98]

now days not much, back 15 years ago there was a lot of difference.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Had a senior developer mentor her as the two of them tracked down the leak. She's actually one of my least favorite people. Ever.

haha You had a woman. I wish I had the 80 yr old version of Bill Gates. We didn't know who's uptime is going to end first his or the server

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Scripting is not a technical term. Its called a scripting language cause we are primarily making a linguistic and cultural judgment, not a technical judgment.

You might think of a string as a pointer to a byte array if you're a C programmer, or as a list if you're a functional programmer, or as an object if you're a Java programmer. I view a string as a Text, with a capital T.

 

[DrPizza]

Yeah, because programmers don't use compilers to interpret (and compile) their code.

Programmers can write their own compiler.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Programmers can write their own compiler.

"Traditional" programs are nothing more than scripts for a microprocessor.

 

[Matthiasa]

Programming is like sex, one mistake and you're providing support for a lifetime.

That mistake is called job security in this case though.