Whats The Difference Between V.90 And V.92?

[A2KLAU]

The title sums it up what I need to know! Becasue I am stuck between buying the fastest V.90 Modem on test, but it does not support V.92 firmware... And slower ones which do support it.

Thanks for helping me out!

Cheers in advance!

Albert.

 

[Anon19]

i'm not exactly sure of this cause i read this long time ago. v.92 i think has faster uploads? the main difference i think is that if you get a v.92 when someone calls your house the modem will hang (but won't disconnect you) and you can still answer the phone. So you only need one phone line. i think. . .

 

[Biggs]

Slide under here.

 

[A2KLAU]

Thanks for the replies! Much appreciated!

So the next step is should I get it or not? I mean the two which are not firmware upgradable are the fastest on test. But the otherw hich can be firmware upgradable are slower but will it make a difference in performance between the fast V.90 and upgraded V.92 modems? I use them for gaming, downloading, and surfing. I don't do too much uploading because I don't have an online hard drive thing, but will occasionally use it to pass files onto friends.

All help will be appreciated!

Thanks again guys!

Albert.

 

[CTR]

Who is your ISP and when do they plan on supporting v.92?

 

[A2KLAU]

My ISP is a U.K one and they are called BT Internet. I am not sure when they will upgrade but I am sure they will becasue they are one of the major ISPs in the whole of the U.K. British Telecom Internet... Speaks for itself how big they are!

But the point is should I go and get an upgradable modem or the fast non upgradable modem?

Thanks in advance.

Albert.

 

[CTR]

What kind of connect speed do you get now? If yoru lines are clean and you get a good connx to the ISP, then v.92 might work for you. But just because your ISP is big doesn't mean they'll upgrade their NASes at the drop of a hat. Small ISP's are much more likely to implement new technology faster. I can tell you right now that it is going to be 6 months before we roll out v.92 code on our modems...and we are a pretty decent-sized modem port wholesaler to AOL, Prodigy, WebTV, and others.

 

[A2KLAU]

Right now the ISP supports V.90 56K, BUT both my laptop built in and ISA in my computer only do V.43 or soemthing like that! And thats why I am getting a new PCI card and Serial modem! The ones which are the fastest on test are the Elsa modems, and the ones which can get upgrades are the Diamond and Creatives one... Basically if I stick with V.90 I will got with the Elsa PCI and the Elsa Serial. If I go for V.92 I will go for the Diamond PCI and maybe the Creative serial. The reason why my modems are so slow becasue each of them are about 3 years old!

Thanks,


Albert.

 

[designgirl]

v92

all it does i believe is allow faster uploads, it doesn't let you download anyfaster, just upload faster.

it wasn't a really big deal and was one of those things they just decided to add on.

 

[A2KLAU]

So shold I get the V.90 modems which are slower at V.90 but can be upgraded to V.92 or the fast V.90 modems which CANNOT be upgraded to V.92???

Thanks,

Albert.

 

[A2KLAU]

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I want to know what your guy's opinion of this subject is! Which should I go for? V.90 not upgradable but the fastest in the V.90 class or should I got for a normal speed modem which CAN be upgraded to V.92???

I need feed back here!

Thanks!

Albert.

 

[bacillus]

I really do think you should find out for certain if BT is presently or in the near future going to support V92 standard modems or else you might just find yourself with an expensive paperweight!

 

[A2KLAU]

Well the modems themselves cost about the same, maybe a price fluctuation of about 5 pounds sterling. So it is not alot of difference. I am checking up on it and it doesn't seem to be alot of information on the BT Internet website for me to search.

Albert.

 

[A2KLAU]

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Bump up for the last time! Need advise on this one!

Albert.

 

[fargus]

I work for a company that sells equipment to a lot of the major ISP's, and many of the smaller ones. We haven't had a single inquiry regarding upgrading their current equipment to the newer protocols. - for what it's worth.

 

[vailr]

US Robotics modems have received top ratings; external modems have the display lights to monitor connectivity.

 

[aardboy]

Since it seems that the difference between V.90 and V.92 is the uploads, I would go with the better modem.

 

[blurredvision]

With the faster uploading speeds, you'll get better download speeds. It's true, it's true. If you don't understand, ask one of the really smart guys in here. They should be able to explain it. Has to do with 'windowing' or something. But I'm not lying, seriously. The download speed may not be a great increase, but will slightly. The increase all depends on your connection rate now.

 

[thorin]

"With the faster uploading speeds, you'll get better download speeds. It's true, it's true. If you don't understand, ask one of the really smart guys in here. They should be able to explain it. Has to do with 'windowing' or something. But I'm not lying, seriously. The download speed may not be a great increase, but will slightly. The increase all depends on your connection rate now. "

It's really simple for every data packet you receive you have to send a acknowledging packet. If you didn't acknowledge packets as they arrived you would just receive a steady stream of packets but if one was dropped somewhere along the way you would end up with errors in the file.

If you send those acknowledgin packets quicker then your overall speed increases (slightly!!!!!).

Thorin

 

[thorin]

-----Quote uGeek Article-----
New V.92 analog modem standard

Posted 3:28pm EST Thu Jul 06 2000

NEWS
The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) agreed on July 4 to three useful new standards above and beyond the current V.90 modem specification.

The first standard, entitled V.92, wil lead to another new generation of dial-up analog modems. The new features are:

1. An increase of more than 40% in the maximum data rate towards the network to a new maximum of 48 kbit/sec on the best connections (above the former 33.6 kb upload maximum--download speed remains at 56 kb max).

2. Significantly quicker start-up times on recognized connections.

3. The ability to put the modem "on-hold" when the network indicates that an incoming call is waiting.

Also agreed to were V.44 and V.59. V.44 is a new method of data compression based on LZJH compression that offers a 25% improvement over v.42bis. V.59 defines new methods of finding problems with modems and modem connections.

Modems supporting the new technologies will be available sometime in Q4 2000.

-----End Quote-----

Info @ 56k.com

Thorin

 

[blurredvision]

Thanks thorin. I figured someone in here would be able to explain it.

 

[A2KLAU]

Thanks! Went out for dinner for a while and here are my answers! But the thing is that the V. fast Elsa V.90s are much quicker than the other V.90s which can be upgraded... So after the upgrade it will call it evens, won't it...

Correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for the replies!

Albert.