What's the difference between a cd and a burned cdr?

[Scarpozzi]

I ask this because burned music cds don't work in all of my cd players. I'm sure there's something I can do to make them work....like maybe another burning program or something. Has anyone had this problem and had any success in making burned cds work in all you cd players?

I have a 6 disc changer that won't accept them and my DVD player won't accept them either (bought it in 99 before it was a big feature). Thanks.

 

[thomsbrain]

my guess is most burning programs don't make redbook-compliant cds. of course, the new "copy-protected" cd's aren't redbook either.

 

[Scarpozzi]

What's redbook compliant exactly? I figured since my cd works on half of my cd players, it should work on the other half....maybe I'm taking this whole thing with a one dimensional view and I shouldn't be....

 

[everman]

Sounds like a formatting issue. But there is also a difference the way mass-produced CDs are made and burned ones, in that mass-produced ones are not burned.

 

[43st]

The grooves of a burned CD are much shallower than a retail CD. Under powered (read: cheap) lasers have a hard time reading the lighter grooves, if at all.

 

[Comp625]

The mass-produced professional CDs are "stamped" on if I remember correctly. While home-made CDs are burnt on using the laser within your CD-RW drive.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Thera
The grooves of a burned CD are much shallower than a retail CD. Under powered (read: cheap) lasers have a hard time reading the lighter grooves, if at all.

Alright...that's the type of answer I was looking for...and I believe I've heard this same explaination, but it didn't stick with me because I didn't NEED to know it then. I wish there was something I could do to get it to work, but ohh well... I'm going to try a different burner program and then a different burner, but I doubt either will give me the results I'm looking for...I just gotta try though. Thanks.

 

[Jombo]

some of the older, well actually now really old cd players couldn't read the cd-rs. could very well be due to the laser power. i would imagine because when such units were made there was no need to read data on a cd-r, it just didn't exist!!

the head unit in my car can read cd-rs without a problem, but it can't read cd-rws. i think it's just a matter of the tolerance of the laser reading the disc. (different wavelengths i would imagine) also older dvd players couldn't read cd-rs/ rws. my cheap o samsung dvd player from 99 couldn't read burned VCDs i got off ebay, but it plays stamped vcds fine. that's why some if not most of the new dvd units denote the capability to play cd-rs and cd-rws.

the stamped cds and burned cds are different in nature, and even cd-rs and cd-rws are burned at different wavelengths, which could explain cd-rs being read yet cd-rws could not.

i'd say have three options:
1. play only stamped cds on your way old cd players and stop pirating music!! (yea there's a joke) because i doubt using a different burning player would do anything for ya.
2. buy a new cd player.
3. try different cd-r medias, the way the medias are made can reflect the laser differently (big maybe), so it just might be read by your older cd /dvd player.

that was long huh? hope that cleared it up a bit, and i'm sorry you might have to spend money, but you can try to get the apex-1200 for around 50 or the 3 disc changing 5131 for like $90 (that one plays everything.. only if i can figure out a way to get to the hack menu...