Whats the difference between a 64bit and 128bit graphics card?

Battousai001

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Whats the difference between a 64bit and 128bit graphics card? in layman's definition and also technically. Im going to purchase a new video card probably a GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB DDR RAM or a GeForce 4 MX 440 or 4000. There are currently two version, 64bit and 128bit.
 

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128-bit has twice the memory bandwidth. You need memory bandwidth to move large amounts of data. Large amounts of data depends on the textures of the game, new games tend to have a large amount of textures, also if you use Anti-Aliasing and how much of it, also the same with Anisotropic Filtering and how high your resolution is set at.

If you don't game, it doesn't matter.
 

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Think of the number of bits as a highway. The 128bit highway is twice as wide and can pass twice as much traffic over the same time period as opposed to the 64bit 'highway'.
 

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Originally posted by: Ronin
64 = bad
128 = better
256 = bestest (for the consumer market, anyway)

512 = bestest-testes (unfortunately not available!)
 

Battousai001

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What would be more advantageous? buying a motherboard with onboard graphics card in it (even if it is a geforce?) or just buy a separate graphics card? (for casual gamers?)

What are the issues of onboard graphics? even onboard geforce's?
 

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Is the type of CPU (speed),memory and motherboard chipset has an impact when using a 128bit graphics card or 64bit? what i mean is would the cpu or memory or mobo can possibly be a bottleneck in performance?
 

Battousai001

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I would like to ask, whats better between the these: geforce fx5200 64bit or mx4000/440 128bit? and fx5200 128bit or mx440 128bit? for use in casual gaming. Im kind of restricted in budget thats why im choosing between the two.... and does the size of the graphics card's ram really matter if its 64bit or 128bit?
 

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You are investigating the difference between 2 different $30 video cards. These maybe ok if you plan to play REALLY old games.

If you want to run any recent games you'll have to consider investing about $100 for an ATI X700 or GF 6600.

However you haven't mentioned the games you play nor if you are upgrading or building new.

If you are running a system that is less than these specs then I'd recommend building a new system.

CPU 1.8GHz
512MB RAM
40GB HDD
GF 4200 (64MB RAM)

If your at or above these specs then I would recommend upgrading the graphics card & catch the CPU, RAM & Mobo on the next system build.
 

gwag

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buy a used 4200ti for $30 if you want a good card cheap or geforce 3
 
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It's kind of suspect that you're hoping to get an FX 5200, which is a very old card (relative to what is available today).

What are your computer's specs and what kinds of games are you hoping to play? Also, what were you planning to pay for this FX 5200? Let's make sure you don't get ripped off; many places, especially retail stores, are charging far, far more than what many older cards are worth, counting on consumers who haven't done research and who don't know any better to overpay for old technology.

If you're planning to play modern first person shooters you're going to need a relatively new computer and you'd want at least an nVidia 6600 GT card (available for about $140 after rebate). You might also consider a Radeon 9600 XT which I've seen for about $85-$90 shipped (but it's far less powerful than the 6600 GT).
 

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Battousai001

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I'll be playing some old games like splinter cell, nba live 2005, warcraft 3, rts games, need for speed and games less than year 2005 old (but probably test newer games if they are playable even with less detail.)

i'll be using the pc mainly for building web content, practicing photoshop, surfing the web and office works.

my system is below the 1.5 ghz. speed and has a 384mb ddr ram. I currently have a busted mobo and looking for a cheap mobo. (my mobo got busted a week ago, its an nforce 2 chipset mobo)

so what do you guys think? Im quite restricted on the budget.... whats better than the 5200? an ati radeon 9550? 9250? i'll be soing some research on the cards that are available here in local retail stores.. i'll be posting the cards and the prices...
 

Battousai001

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Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Originally posted by: Battousai001
Whats the difference between a 64bit and 128bit graphics card? in layman's definition and also technically. Im going to purchase a new video card probably a GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB DDR RAM or a GeForce 4 MX 440 or 4000. There are currently two version, 64bit and 128bit.

I've found two reviews which should answer your question:-

xfx fx5200 (64bit) v xfx fx5200 (128bit)

XFX Geforce MX4000 (64bit) v Gainward GF4 MX440 (128bit)


thanks!
 

fuzzynavel

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what's your budget and the good people on the planet anandtech may be able to help you get the best bang for your buck...
 

SGtheArtist

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Since your Mobo has died. This is a really good opportunity to upgrade the key components fo the system (CPU, Mobo, RAM & Gfx)

If you dont have the budget then I would.

1) save until I can buy a new (CPU, Mobo, RAM & Gfx)

OR

2) if you absolutely need the system running then I'd by an old nForce2 mobo for cheap and wait on the Gfx upgrade.

With 1.5GHz CPU its really not worth upgrading the Gfx since most games will require more CPU power than you have.
 

nemesismk2

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Originally posted by: Battousai001
Originally posted by: nemesismk2
Originally posted by: Battousai001
Whats the difference between a 64bit and 128bit graphics card? in layman's definition and also technically. Im going to purchase a new video card probably a GeForce FX 5200 with 128MB DDR RAM or a GeForce 4 MX 440 or 4000. There are currently two version, 64bit and 128bit.

I've found two reviews which should answer your question:-

xfx fx5200 (64bit) v xfx fx5200 (128bit)

XFX Geforce MX4000 (64bit) v Gainward GF4 MX440 (128bit)


thanks!


your welcome :)
 

Battousai001

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well my budget is around $62-65. thats including the motherboard already... but if its only for the graphics card then I think around $30-35.
 

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Originally posted by: Sonikku
I pity the fool who be buying a FX5200.

True. Nowadays you can get an even better card for the money spent on a FX5200. However, years ago when video cards didn't upgrade so quickly the FX5200 was a presentable choice to people like me, who just wanted to play CS, etc.