What's the deal with the long lines at the Apple stores?

[QueBert]

When is the iPhone 9 coming out? Might catch up to the DNA, SG4, etc by then.

The iPhone 5s blows any Samsung phone out the water in benchmarks, it has far better apps, 100x the accessories & a way higher resale value. SG4 has a bigger screen and widgets. I'm sure speed wise the SG6 will match up well to the iPhone 5s.

 

[OS]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1645499

This company is scumbag, they withhold stock received during the day, to grow and feed a line in the morning. What's the point of taking launch orders online, when they divert stock, to then intentionally grow lines.

No wonder this company has a cult rep. This is my first and last time ordering a launch product from them.

 

[Eug]

They're still lining up for the iPhone 5S gold, even as of yesterday. My buddy picking up a space grey said that people had been lining up (not long lines mind you) outside his Apple Store so that they can get access to any available iPhone 5S gold models when the store opened. This is in Toronto.

 

[Oyeve]

The iPhone 5s blows any Samsung phone out the water in benchmarks, it has far better apps, 100x the accessories & a way higher resale value. SG4 has a bigger screen and widgets. I'm sure speed wise the SG6 will match up well to the iPhone 5s.

All the above is true, and that's what sickens me. And why I will never buy this douche brand. I don't want to be one of you guys. Good product or not, just being associated with it in any way is so......so.........hipster douchey unintelligent.

 

[openwheel]

since when do Apple diehards care about benchmarks? I thought it was more about user experience.

 

[QueBert]

All the above is true, and that's what sickens me. And why I will never buy this douche brand. I don't want to be one of you guys. Good product or not, just being associated with it in any way is so......so.........hipster douchey unintelligent.

yeah, you could always be a Phandroid, dunno if you pay attention to them. But they're definitely no better than the Apple cult dudes. If I cared about the image of a product due to the people who use said product I wouldn't use either iOS or Android. But I'm able to separate the device from the user base to make my decision.

since when do Apple diehards care about benchmarks? I thought it was more about user experience.

How does that not play into the user experience? Good benchmarks mean a device is fast, which means it will be more enjoyable to use. Apple die hards aren't all clueless soccer moms who don't know how to use a PC. I've been on computers since the TRS-80, and honestly the benchmarks (speed) would be 1 of my 2 main reason for being an iPhone fanatic.

 

[Crono]

since when do Apple diehards care about benchmarks? I thought it was more about user experience.

Everyone loves benchmarks when its favorable.

It's funny, though, because there is some lag and bugs with the rollout of iOS 7 on older devices. It's weird to see Android users and Apple users trade places, if only for a little bit and for a short while. iPhones with the fastest hardware, but some minor complaints about the UI.

Everyone has to recognize that Apple is king of the hill right now with some of the camera stuff and their CPU, but they weren't just a few weeks ago. The Android manufacturers will leapfrog Apple again at some point, and in a year Apple with leapfrog Android again. It's just how fast technology is moving.

I'm glad for the competition in the mobile space and discussion over the strengths and weaknesses of all the phones and other mobile devices. It means no one has a stranglehold just yet, and the pace of improvements to nearly everything is quite good. The smartphones we use today are faster or very nearly faster than the desktops we were using 10 years ago.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

How does that not play into the user experience? Good benchmarks mean a device is fast, which means it will be more enjoyable to use. Apple die hards aren't all clueless soccer moms who don't know how to use a PC. I've been on computers since the TRS-80, and honestly the benchmarks (speed) would be 1 of my 2 main reason for being an iPhone fanatic.

Benchmarks correlate with performance, but when going for cross platform comparisons, there's a jump. So just because an S800 blows out an iPhone 5C or 5, it's likely the iPhone 5 still has a smoother experience.

I don't think it's a major plus for me that the 5S blows out the GS4 in benchmarks. It's more important to me that the user experience is smoother. However, if Apple can win in actual user experience and benchmarks, then more power to them.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1645499

This company is scumbag, they withhold stock received during the day, to grow and feed a line in the morning. What's the point of taking launch orders online, when they divert stock, to then intentionally grow lines.

No wonder this company has a cult rep. This is my first and last time ordering a launch product from them.

Let's see how well the Nexus launch is. I have yet to see a company move 9 million units in 1 weekend that impressively. 9 million movie tickets would be a $100 million opening weekend movie. That's considered a hit for a ticket that's $11. Now the fact they can move 9 million units of a $600 product? Have some respect.

The amount of units being sold at an Apple store on a daily basis is certainly impressive. They probably move more units in a weekend than Google manages to move for the Nexus line in a month.

 

[zaydq]

Can't we all agree that the GS4/HTC One/LG G2,etc are blazing fast devices?

Can't we also agree that the iPhone 5s is an impressive and fast(er) device?

Aren't we at the point in mobile performance that we're throwing rocks into a hole that is already overflowing with rocks? Synthetic benchmarks portray a relevant number to compare one another... but they don't portray a realistic and practical use of a device.

Phones today play all the games just fine, they make a phone call fine, reload web pages fine and can do just about anything just fine and pretty close to equally. It sounds like everyone is nitpicking on the magic geekbench number, and not necessarily taking into consideration that in practicality, they are all just fine.

just my $0.02.

 

[openwheel]

I think Brian Klug and Anand summed it up best. Its impressive optimization of the Apple A7 , but for what? The puny battery hinders the talk time on a PHONE, and you get to enjoy all that impressive performance on a tiny 4 inch screen. I also agree with them that iOS 7 was made for white and gold I phones. It just looks odd on the black version.

 

[Commodus]

I think Brian Klug and Anand summed it up best. Its impressive optimization of the Apple A7 , but for what? The puny battery hinders the talk time on a PHONE, and you get to enjoy all that impressive performance on a tiny 4 inch screen. I also agree with them that iOS 7 was made for white and gold I phones. It just looks odd on the black version.

There isn't much real-world performance advantage over the 5, but keep in mind that this still lets you do a lot -- incredibly fast web browsing, advanced visual effects in games and some clever tricks in the camera app. If you're a smartphone gamer, the iPhone is still what you need to get the best games first.

I'll agree that the A7 feels like a bit of overkill in some respects. I'd like to see how it (or a possible A7X variant) fares in the full-size iPad, though. It can definitely use the extra power.

 

[Crono]

Can't we all agree that the GS4/HTC One/LG G2,etc are blazing fast devices?

Can't we also agree that the iPhone 5s is an impressive and fast(er) device?

Aren't we at the point in mobile performance that we're throwing rocks into a hole that is already overflowing with rocks? Synthetic benchmarks portray a relevant number to compare one another... but they don't portray a realistic and practical use of a device.

Phones today play all the games just fine, they make a phone call fine, reload web pages fine and can do just about anything just fine and pretty close to equally. It sounds like everyone is nitpicking on the magic geekbench number, and not necessarily taking into consideration that in practicality, they are all just fine.

just my $0.02.

No, we can't all agree because then there would be nothing to talk about. Or at least it would be very boring.

See, I'm disagreeing with you, and it's already making this thread 4.3% more interesting.

Also, the HTC One is better than all y'all devices. That's right, I said it. So there.
/throws down mic
#needlessargumentsarefun

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I think Brian Klug and Anand summed it up best. Its impressive optimization of the Apple A7 , but for what? The puny battery hinders the talk time on a PHONE, and you get to enjoy all that impressive performance on a tiny 4 inch screen. I also agree with them that iOS 7 was made for white and gold I phones. It just looks odd on the black version.

And how important is talk time? Everyone here seems to say a smartphone is a computer first, phone second. The iPhone has an impressive battery runtime in the end. It's great on wifi and great on 3G/4G.

 

[openwheel]

talk time is important to many professionals. My boss is on his phone constantly, and I conduct business frequently on the phone as well.

Although phones are becomeing pocket computers, its primary function remains as a phone. I feel strongly about calling my fiance, work associates, family and friends. Texting and Facebooking do not have the same effect. I know kids these days prefer emails and IM, but sooner or later they'll realize they need to pick up the phone and dial to become big boys.