Whats the Deal with stoping drugs

inveterate

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Drug abusers will most likely cause havok, and eventually harm to themselves. Most big time junkies are unlikely to contribute to society anyway. They'll eventually just kill themselves. If the Government just stop the regualtions there would be a GIANT MESS caused by druggies/dealers. People are going to blame the government, then once they realize the government doesn't care anymore. THey'll take things into their own hands, and make it publicly acceptible to gang up on dealers and kick their ass whenever possible. It would seem a whole lot more efficient method of stopping Drugs from protracting. THe government can throw money at the problem, but it isn't going to change PEOPLE as a whole, because most of us won't budge unless we're staring death in the FACE. + gov does not have enough money to station drug dogs everywhere, but people are already everywhere, if they all realized that they themselves can fight back, motivated by the fact that they might die if they don't, they can purge a good deal of the problem.
 

DurocShark

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I think that would only work if there were ONLY users in the world. Mix in normal people and the equation goes out the window.
 

BrokenVisage

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The war on drugs is just the governments way of saying they're giving it the old college try. They'll never win but you can't say they're not doing anything about it.
 

inveterate

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drugged up people will go out and smash windows and burn stuff, that makes them unacceptable, people will stop them eventually.
 

EyeMWing

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OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.
So what if the CEO of a large corporation gets executed? Would that wreak havoc?
 

Amused

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The lack of any and all logic in the OP is simply amazing.

If the government legalized drugs, the scene would look much like the end of prohibition.

Legal drug importers would immediately drive drug dealers out of business. Thus stopping the cause of most "drug related" crimes.

The number of those inclined to do drugs will change very little. I have yet to meet ANYONE who's primary, or even secondary reason for not doing drugs is "they are illegal." Legalizing drugs will have very little impact on abuse rates.
 

cjgallen

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.
 

Conky

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You go attack drug dealers and I will watch. :confused:

I'm embarrassed for the original poster. :eek:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.

MODERN capital punishment does very little. Because death is anything but swift and sure.

Tell me, what is your primary reason for not stepping in front of a speeding 18 wheeler?
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.

Because capital punishment is not a quick and widely used process.

Being killed in the street, no judge, no jury, no DA, no appeals, IS an effective deterrant. Why the fvck do you think suburbanites avoid the "bad" parts of town?

Would YOU risk your life (LITERALLY) for a dimebag of weed?
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.
So what if the CEO of a large corporation gets executed? Would that wreak havoc?

Even better in terms of the war on drugs. WAY more public exposure.
 

eigen

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: cjgallen
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.

Because capital punishment is not a quick and widely used process.

Being killed in the street, no judge, no jury, no DA, no appeals, IS an effective deterrant. Why the fvck do you think suburbanites avoid the "bad" parts of town?

Would YOU risk your life (LITERALLY) for a dimebag of weed?

Would I want to live in a country where a dimebag gets you executed?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: eigen
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: cjgallen
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
OR we could go the opposite route; immediate execution by way of a bullet to the face of anyone arrested on a drug offense. That would curtail things REALLY quickly.

That was actually my answer to a question on the final exam in my economics class regarding how to protect the economy from the damage done by illegal drugs.

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.

Because capital punishment is not a quick and widely used process.

Being killed in the street, no judge, no jury, no DA, no appeals, IS an effective deterrant. Why the fvck do you think suburbanites avoid the "bad" parts of town?

Would YOU risk your life (LITERALLY) for a dimebag of weed?

Would I want to live in a country where a dimebag gets you executed?

No, but that wasn't the point. We were responding to this:

Capital punishment does very little to deter crime, Google it.
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: Amused
The lack of any and all logic in the OP is simply amazing.

If the government legalized drugs, the scene would look much like the end of prohibition.

Legal drug importers would immediately drive drug dealers out of business. Thus stopping the cause of most "drug related" crimes.

The number of those inclined to do drugs will change very little. I have yet to meet ANYONE who's primary, or even secondary reason for not doing drugs is "they are illegal." Legalizing drugs will have very little impact on abuse rates.

I completely agree.

On an upside, there would probably be an influx of better quality drugs if the government regulated the industry.
 

cjgallen

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Originally posted by: Amused
MODERN capital punishment does very little. Because death is anything but swift and sure.

So it's not Cruel or Unusual enough? Maybe we should amend the Constitution :roll: That whole judicial system is such an inconvenience!

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Deterrence, Brutalization, and the Death Penalty: Another Examination of OklahomaÕs Return to Capital Punishment. In this study, author William Bailey speculated that if executions had a deterrent effect in Oklahoma, it would be observable by comparing murder rates and rates of sub-types of murder, such as felony-murder, stranger robbery-related killings, stranger non-felony murder, and argument-related killings, before and after the resumption of executions. Bailey examined the period between 1989 and 1991 for total killings and sub-types of killing. After controlling for a number of variables, Bailey found that there was no evidence for a deterrent effect. He did, however, find that there was a significant increase in stranger killings and non-felony stranger killings after Oklahoma resumed executions after a 25-year moratorium. (36 Criminology 711-33 (1998)).
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: Amused
The lack of any and all logic in the OP is simply amazing.

If the government legalized drugs, the scene would look much like the end of prohibition.

Legal drug importers would immediately drive drug dealers out of business. Thus stopping the cause of most "drug related" crimes.

The number of those inclined to do drugs will change very little. I have yet to meet ANYONE who's primary, or even secondary reason for not doing drugs is "they are illegal." Legalizing drugs will have very little impact on abuse rates.

I completely agree.

On an upside, there would probably be an influx of better quality drugs if the government regulated the industry.

It would never happen in the US, because here we just love to legislate morality on everyone.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: cjgallen
Originally posted by: Amused
MODERN capital punishment does very little. Because death is anything but swift and sure.

So it's not Cruel or Unusual enough? Maybe we should amend the Constitution :roll: That whole judicial system is such an inconvenience!

"Swift and sure" has NOTHING to do with "cruel and unusual."

The Constutution has no mention of 10+ years of repetitive, time wasting appeals.

Please, answer my question. What is the reason why you do not step in front of a speeding semi?
 

cjgallen

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Originally posted by: Amused
Please, answer my question. What is the reason why you do not step in front of a speeding semi?



Good job supporting your argument with clever little analogies, rather than factual information. Suicide versus capital punishment? Nice try. I don't step in front of a semi because mommy taught me to look both ways before crossing the street :roll: People commit crimes because of the motivation to do so, not because they want to die.

Show me an article that proves capital punishment deters crime, or just assault me with more invalid comparisons :roll: