What's the current state of Diablo II when it comes to cheating/scamming/duping?

[ibex333]

I remember when I left Diablo II it was at a horrible state overall... Virtually no one played without using D2jsp or some sort of a bot. Swarms of botting hammerdins killed bosses day and night, PCs running 24/7... Maphack was a must. No one in their right mind played without it.

Then the rune dupers came along... The duping was rumored from the first day the game came out, but it really came into play much later. It got so prevalent that I simply stopped trading since there was no way to know which rune you traded would go poof on you and when.

I'd like to know if Blizz did anything about it yet. Is there still a working maphack? Are people still botting like crazy? Is there still duping going on that you know of?

Is it still possible to power level by doing "ancients" at a certain level and then doing "baal runs" and leeching exp from parties?

 

[randay]

i played d2 for 3 months from launch and was top 5 in the necro ladder rankings. quit the day some guy gave me 2 duped rare rings. if they have found a way to stop all the cheating great, but i think the damage is already done.

i hope to god they lock down d3, or itll all be for nothing.

 

[TridenT]

It's all the same. You can still glitch ancients and get to A5 hell as a level 3. But that is requiring someone else to do ancients in your party and they have to be level 20, then 40 and then 60. But yeah, I got glitch rushed a lot so we could uber-trist. Then I'd have meh uber paladinz. Way awesome. Lot better than leechin' XP off baal runs or even doing them.

Yes, there are probably still TONS of bots. I don't know though since a new patch did come out.

 

[JoPh]

i never knew about any of this.

id love to get a bot now to level me to like 50 or so. i hate how blizzard deletes your characters.

 

[Maximilian]

From what i can tell theres no undetectable maphack, they are all detectabke by warden, mousepads 1.11b maphack is apparently undetectable but dosent work for 1.12 and hasent been updated yet (1.12 simply added the no cd ability so theres no reason 1.11b maphack wouldnt work). Other hacks also dont seem to work either, all the ones that were mandatory back in 1.09 are broken.

Duping i have no idea about, dont think its possible, the lag dupe thing has apparantly been rectified by kicking players that lag out of games.

Scamming is still around but the scams are awful, "Free item for trust!" is a game name ive seen the past 2 days, you give scammer an item to show you trust him and hes supposed to give you one for free back... really crappy scam. I used to know a guy who would take entire accounts off of people many times a day with his elaborate scam but that was before accounts were linked to email addresses, so scams are easier to avoid now in 1.12 and easier to deal with should someone steal your account.

Botting... dunno... theres a lot more ad bots than there used to be back in 1.09, so thats pretty crap. Dont think MF bots work anymore though, my friend kept getting kicked off battle.net for joining too many games, so i dont think a bot would have much luck.

 

[ibex333]

Thanx for the info dudes. I just hope they do something to prevent all this in Diablo III.

 

[CottonRabbit]

Hacking is far worse than what Soviet described.

In 1.11b there were several maphacks that were not detected. I believe there are now working maphacks for 1.12.

I'm sure duping is still around. It was around before runes.

It's probably impossible to pull off a convincing scam nowadays.

Mf bots still work. You'll often see baal bots in hell baal runs.

There are also 2 extremely annoying pvp hacks. One gives auto-aim (very deadly in the hands of a windy druid), and another changes fcr/ias/fhr/fbr breakpoints, so a hammerdin in full resist gear can still cast at max frames per second and have enough fhr to never get stun locked.

With enough work, I think everything can be prevented/suppressed in Diablo 3 besides bots.

 

[Dumac]

There are TONS of bots going around. It's pretty much how a lot of people level if they don't have an intimate partner to help them.

In my recent replay, I didn't have any real problems with duping.

Never used a maphack, so I'm not sure on the status of those.

However, they are a few pvp hacks/glitches that are readily abused.

EDIT:
The leveling up for those without true friend basically follows this pattern.
1-15: Tristram
16-20: Tombs
21-25: Cow Level
Then do the ancients and grind baal's minions until around 50.
50-75: Nightmare Baal
75+: Hell Baal + extras

This is all rough, of course.

 

[ViviTheMage]

I played from 1.07 to 1.09 (which was what...6 years until 1.1 FINALY came out...which I had quit by then).

I remember the Charsi dup, d2hackit with pindlebot...maphack...GOOD cow runs, when it wasn't nerfed.

I remember doing hell cows @ level 6 or so, good stuff.

 

[Chosonman]

D2 was the proving grounds for MMOG (Massively Multiplayer Online Gaming) a lot of lessons were learned from D2 by not only Blizzard but just about every game publisher out there today. Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG. That's what Diablo 2 will always be remembered for... being the first.

 

[manko]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

Well respected games, they never reached the height and popularity that D2 achieved. D2 basically opened the door to MMOG to everyone while UO and EQ were achieved a niche audience.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

Well respected games, they never reached the height and popularity that D2 achieved. D2 basically opened the door to MMOG to everyone while UO and EQ were achieved a niche audience.

What? No.

 

[TridenT]

Bots pwn. I loved using mine. He would never die at night and would do all these runs. Even baal ones, it was sweet. I'd wake up in the morning and have a full stash full of awesome items. Sell them on d2jsp for some FG.

 

[jordanclock]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

Well respected games, they never reached the height and popularity that D2 achieved. D2 basically opened the door to MMOG to everyone while UO and EQ were achieved a niche audience.

What? No.

I'm with Dumac on this one. UO and EQ were on par, if not more popular than D2. And they had a much more cult following. Everything was worse on those games. Early UO was pretty much a game of griefing. Duping and botting? Those games practically invented those things. And ebaying was bigger on EQ and UO for the simple reason that people payed to play, thus everything was more valuable. Your time had a literal money value.

 

[DannyLove]

since we're talking about our old dayz ill throw in my memories.

I had this killer sorcs. And to top it off, I had almost every damn small magic charm in my inventory. AND, I had this unbreakable ITH pole for my ice mercenary who would freeze everything in the radius while I used the lighing surge thing and murdered everything. Worked great in cow runs.

That's as far as I went with cheats, I basically traded with dupes and received more dupes or modded up ith items. It was great. After selling roughly $100+ virtual items on ebay I called it quits and never returned again. Every blue moon I think about D2 and the days of fun gaming.

So D3? anyone have rumors to share?

 

[Chosonman]

Remember the days after the expansion when Sorceresses were the most powerful due to their juiced elemental damage no one would fight them especially a barbarian. Then I came up with the idea of collecting UM runes (all elemental damage reduced) and had a set of armor that had nearly 100% reduced elemental damage (hardly any physical damage protection) Then I went to the cliff of Act 5 and hostiled a group of 5 Sorcess (Everyone at that time played Sorcess because they were the only ones that could farm loot all other characters were too weak to kill mobs) I remember them laughing at me and saying things like "Dumb barb" "go home" and "ok come and get it" I remember rushing out and killing the first one (they were all spread out across the map) and hear "oh shit" and the other one's saying "what happened" then I chase and kill another one.. The rest run saying "WTH??" Hacker!! blah blah... heheh... fun fun fun.. those were the days...

 

[Maximilian]

ITHS... i remember those, i could never get a hold of one though Anyone remember white rings? They had 100% absorb for every kind of elemantal damage and 100% resist all, i went out with my pally to duel a sorc who hadnt heard of white rings and he simply couldnt hurt me at all. Good times good times....

They were all wiped out by that "Rust Storm" thing that blizzard made to remove all the hacked items.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

Well respected games, they never reached the height and popularity that D2 achieved. D2 basically opened the door to MMOG to everyone while UO and EQ were achieved a niche audience.

What?

That my be the stupidest fucking gaming related statement anyone has ever typed on this board.

 

[Shlong]

My D2 online experience was somewhat spoiled because of a duper friend. Before LOD, he would give me hundreds of soj's and dual leech / dual stat rings, amulets, boots, gloves, etc. In LOD later he would give me all sorts of elite items - the green shako, grandfathers sword, arkaines armor, etc. Before he duped in LOD and around the 1.08/1.09 patch I actually found a Windforce Bow from one of my magic runs, I sold that on ebay for $400 - $500 (this was before duping was prevelant in the expansion).

 

[invidia]

I last played just before the ladder reset, which was quite recent. Duping still exist. Last season, high runes were mostly duped (either for selling for IRL money or for trading). There was a high chance that a very high rune was duped. Legit ones were VERY VERY rare. The problem is getting the rune first. Maphacks are still rampant as of late last season. Botting too.

Hacks like, "I can send you a keylooger through the game or by opening trade" DO NOT EXIST. You cannot get hacked in-game unless you purposely give out your password or received a keylogger from visiting website. Nor do "trade hacks".

 

[JoPh]

Originally posted by: Shlong
My D2 online experience was somewhat spoiled because of a duper friend. Before LOD, he would give me hundreds of soj's and dual leech / dual stat rings, amulets, boots, gloves, etc. In LOD later he would give me all sorts of elite items - the green shako, grandfathers sword, arkaines armor, etc. Before he duped in LOD and around the 1.08/1.09 patch I actually found a Windforce Bow from one of my magic runs, I sold that on ebay for $400 - $500 (this was before duping was prevelant in the expansion).

wtf. 400?? thats freakin retarded. jesus.

 

[skace]

People talk about how their Diablo 2 experience was ruined by duping, my fucking Diablo 1 experience was ruined by duping. I still remember the day someone gave me a staff of apoc. In my complete newbness, I thought he actually found it and it was this awesome item that he didn't need because I was a caster and he was melee. Little did I learn, it was a hacked and then duped item, apoc staffs were never supposed to have 255 charges. But once I started using it, my entire character build and skill abilities relied on that retarded staff until I eventually quit. The problem was that it interrupted normal character progression, I threw away items that might have been natural upgrades and overlooked learning real strategies to fight more difficult encounters.

Anyone that played Diablo 1 knew exactly what D2 had in store for it and probably D3 as well. People want an open battle.net, they want this free system withe peer2peer game play and local character files. When you get into this world you kiss security goodbye.

 

[Slew Foot]

Couldnt they make a system where each item has a hidden code attached to it that had to be validated by Battle.net or something or it doesnt work? Should get rid of a lot of the duping.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: jordanclock

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: manko

Originally posted by: Chosonman
Lessons learned: Duping, botting, scamming, greafing, spamming, map hacking, ebaying all originated from this wonderful test case of an MMOG.

What about UO and EQ?

Well respected games, they never reached the height and popularity that D2 achieved. D2 basically opened the door to MMOG to everyone while UO and EQ were achieved a niche audience.

What? No.

I'm with Dumac on this one. UO and EQ were on par, if not more popular than D2. And they had a much more cult following. Everything was worse on those games. Early UO was pretty much a game of griefing. Duping and botting? Those games practically invented those things. And ebaying was bigger on EQ and UO for the simple reason that people payed to play, thus everything was more valuable. Your time had a literal money value.

Duping and Botting was big during Diablo 1. It made the game unplayable after a while. I didn't even attempt to play Diablo 2 online because of the issues with the original. I am pretty sure that Diablo 1 was the original MMO, and not UO or EQ, since it was release long before either of these.