What's "the" certification to have in the security field nowadays?

[FreshPrince]

and..route to go about getting it?

 

[tweakmm]

experience, except no substitutes

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
experience, except no substitutes

yes, experience is nice, but you know how it is with companies...they look at the piece of paper and foam at the mouth 😀

 

[n0cmonkey]

GIAC, CISSP, Checkpoint cert (CCSA?), etc are all fine and dandy. What do you want to do?

 

[bolomite]

CCIE Security

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
GIAC, CISSP, Checkpoint cert (CCSA?), etc are all fine and dandy. What do you want to do?

My boss wants me to take the CCSA route, but basically I can take whatever I want. And I want one that's going to be "the" cert to have if you're working in the security field. I looked at the CP NG course and it's pretty proprietary, however, it's nice to know it since we use it here in the office.

GIAC is offered with SANS right? what about CISSP, which platform does this one fall under?

 

[trmiv]

I'm interested in this too. Too bad I can't afford to pay for a cert right now though! I do more network admin/tech support stuff right now, but I want to get my foot in the door with security.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
GIAC, CISSP, Checkpoint cert (CCSA?), etc are all fine and dandy. What do you want to do?

My boss wants me to take the CCSA route, but basically I can take whatever I want. And I want one that's going to be "the" cert to have if you're working in the security field. I looked at the CP NG course and it's pretty proprietary, however, it's nice to know it since we use it here in the office.

GIAC is offered with SANS right? what about CISSP, which platform does this one fall under?

CISSP is a pretty general security course I think. I like some of these classes, but I find the tests stupid. So I have no certs. I did however spend a couple of years behind an IDS or 100, and a little while behind some firewalls.

 

[bolomite]

info on CISSP

this one is not for anyone, though

 

[tcsenter]

What's "the" certification to have in the security field nowadays?

Oh, an Airborne Ranger or US Army Special Forces Tab, US Navy Trident, US Marines Force Recon patch, or....are we talking about the same 'security' field?

 

[trmiv]

just wanted to subscribe to this thread

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

What's "the" certification to have in the security field nowadays?

Oh, an Airborne Ranger or US Army Special Forces Tab, US Navy Trident, US Marines Force Recon patch, or....are we talking about the same 'security' field?

nah, just computer security field

 

[FreshPrince]

what about redhat security course? is that one worth taking?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
what about redhat security course? is that one worth taking?

How much do you know about Linux?

 

[Nitemare]

mcse? 😀





seriously, though...some cisco certs would be nice....

 

[FreshPrince]

enough, but that course looks dry, I think I'm gonna go with Global Knowledge's Security I, II, & III course. Seems pretty extensive.

 

[spidey07]

CISSP - easy and not very techical at all, pretty much BS.

CCIE security - pretty hard core, very respected

I've actually changed gears from CCIE routing & switching and am focusing on CCIE security. who knows maybe I'll get lucky and get them both.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: spidey07
CISSP - easy and not very techical at all, pretty much BS.

CCIE security - pretty hard core, very respected

I've actually changed gears from CCIE routing & switching and am focusing on CCIE security. who knows maybe I'll get lucky and get them both.

when you say bs, are you talking about theories and concepts? Basically no real world practicaltiy? Or do you mean it's easy like A+?

 

[SagaLore]

There's a new Security+ certification available now. That's what I want to take.

 

[spidey07]

🙂

The people I know with CISSP are total morons. Really. Most of them are audit folks who "want to get involved in the exciting world of IT".

There is some real world application for CISSP as it covers a broad range of topics, but it is a joke among guys that actually work in security. But like I said, it is pretty easy if you just want to read a bunch and take the tests.

Good luck...the best cert out there is a Degree or Masters in computer science.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: spidey07
🙂

The people I know with CISSP are total morons. Really. Most of them are audit folks who "want to get involved in the exciting world of IT".

There is some real world application for CISSP as it covers a broad range of topics, but it is a joke among guys that actually work in security. But like I said, it is pretty easy if you just want to read a bunch and take the tests.

Good luck...the best cert out there is a Degree or Masters in computer science.

would you then say go with CCSA, which has a grasp on a specific vendor, and therefore brings more value to the table?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: spidey07
🙂

The people I know with CISSP are total morons. Really. Most of them are audit folks who "want to get involved in the exciting world of IT".

There is some real world application for CISSP as it covers a broad range of topics, but it is a joke among guys that actually work in security. But like I said, it is pretty easy if you just want to read a bunch and take the tests.

Good luck...the best cert out there is a Degree or Masters in computer science.

I have atleast one friend whose security knowledge I respect greatly that is considering getting a CISSP. There are exceptions to the rule. 😛

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince

Originally posted by: spidey07
🙂

The people I know with CISSP are total morons. Really. Most of them are audit folks who "want to get involved in the exciting world of IT".

There is some real world application for CISSP as it covers a broad range of topics, but it is a joke among guys that actually work in security. But like I said, it is pretty easy if you just want to read a bunch and take the tests.

Good luck...the best cert out there is a Degree or Masters in computer science.

would you then say go with CCSA, which has a grasp on a specific vendor, and therefore brings more value to the table?

If the CCSA will be valuable to you and your employer, go for it. I attempted to get it one time (if that is the Checkpoint one, I can never remember 😛). I failed the test by 2 questions, but had no problems setting up and managing a Checkpoint firewall.