whats the best portable audio/mp3 player with the best frequency response

[BirdDad]

I am in the market for a new player,I want one that has a very high frequency response and also headphones(in ear) that can deliver the high frequencies also,are there any that do above 20KHz?

 

[radioouman]

I doubt that you'll find earbuds that come with the player that will get to 20,000 hz, unless it is just totally by chance.

You'll probably need to get some Shure E2C or E3C earphones to get those freqs.

I have no idea on a player.

 

[Gibson486]

Why would you want one that would do it above 20kHz? the most important thing is to have a flat frequeuncy response across the whole range, not the highest.

 

[Staples]

Ipods have over 100db to noise ratio. People always say their music sounds weird for some reason. Don't know if this has something to do with it.

 

[duragezic]

Have you tested to see if you can even hear above that frequency?

I would think that not many manufacturers would have that as a design requirement, but I guess if it wasn't too hard some players and headphones could do it.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Staples
Ipods have over 100db to noise ratio. People always say their music sounds weird for some reason. Don't know if this has something to do with it.

You mean the Signal to Noise Ratio? 100dB is pretty standard for an MP3 player. All that measurement tells you is the ratio betwwen the noise and the actual wave you inputted. Unless its really low, its notreally somethign you could really notoice right off the bat.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: radioouman
I doubt that you'll find earbuds that come with the player that will get to 20,000 hz, unless it is just totally by chance.

You'll probably need to get some Shure E2C or E3C earphones to get those freqs.

I have no idea on a player.

Canalphones do not go above 16.9 KHz (unless they have started to fab their own drivers but as far as I know, even the UE-10's drop off after 17KHz). I highly doubt any portable player will go above 20KHz, that's outside the range of CD's.

 

[NanoStuff]

I suggest you re-consider your priorities.

 

[BirdDad]

I didn't mean headphones that come with a player,I plan to do away with the ones that come with the player as they probably would be cheap

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: BirdDad
I didn't mean headphones that come with a player,I plan to do away with the ones that come with the player as they probably would be cheap

We understand that. But you seem to think that just because a headphone has a frequency response from 5hz to 22 khz, it would be better than a headphone whose frequency response only tops at 19.5 Khz. That just is not the case.

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Staples
Ipods have over 100db to noise ratio. People always say their music sounds weird for some reason. Don't know if this has something to do with it.

You mean the Signal to Noise Ratio? 100dB is pretty standard for an MP3 player. All that measurement tells you is the ratio betwwen the noise and the actual wave you inputted. Unless its really low, its notreally somethign you could really notoice right off the bat.

If that is so (and it may be, my Sony Xplod car stereo claims to have a 120snr), why did everyone make such a big deal when the Audigy 2 ZS came out with 108snr? Everyone was acting like this was some kind of technology breakthrough and that the ZS was on par with $10k equiptment.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I can hear mosquito tones and the iPod Video sounds excellent with either 160 kbps AAC or 192 kbps MP3 ripped from CDs (not p2p garbage).

 

[BirdDad]

I am not claiming to have superhuman hearing or anything to that effect,I am able to hear things that the rest of my family cannot-like the hum lightbulbs make and other things
I would not be using mp3 I would be using pcm wav
I think I have found a pair of headphones with the frequency response I am looking for,I now need to find a player that can handle higher and lower frequencies,especially the high ones with a good SNR,I only need 8GBs hard drive based,flash is too expensive

 

[Howard]

Find something with a line-out and use a discrete amp.

 

[DaveSimmons]

FYI, Apple Lossless will have identical (by definition) audio as PCM WAV and compresses (again losslessly) to about 2/3 the size of WAV. With 4 GB of flash RAM you should be able to hold about 13 full CDs worth of Apple Lossless encoded music.

Microsoft also offers WMA lossless for compression without quality loss but be careful since some (lossy) WMA capable players do not support WMA lossless.

Apple and WMA lossless formats also support embedding tagging information (artist, album, song, track number) while PCM WAV files do not support embedded tags.

I uses lossless FLAC compression for the CDs on my music server but most portables do not support it.

 

[BirdDad]

the apple "lossless" codec causes stutter when played back on my ipod whereas the original pcm wav did not there fore it cannot be considered

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Staples

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: Staples
Ipods have over 100db to noise ratio. People always say their music sounds weird for some reason. Don't know if this has something to do with it.

You mean the Signal to Noise Ratio? 100dB is pretty standard for an MP3 player. All that measurement tells you is the ratio betwwen the noise and the actual wave you inputted. Unless its really low, its notreally somethign you could really notoice right off the bat.

If that is so (and it may be, my Sony Xplod car stereo claims to have a 120snr), why did everyone make such a big deal when the Audigy 2 ZS came out with 108snr? Everyone was acting like this was some kind of technology breakthrough and that the ZS was on par with $10k equiptment.

because its a numbers game. Whether ity really does something has to be proven by a person's ear. 108 db SNR is pretty good for conumers stuff, but you have to be careful and look at how they achieved that number. ANother factor that made it a big deal was that, I think, the whole card is based on one dsp. In other words, it has lots of fets switching on and off at a given time. This translates into noise, which in turn lowers SNR.