Whats the best mobo i can get that takes pc 133 ram?

SidewaysN2second

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topic say it all, i am poor, i have a celeron OC'd to 750 mhz, and a tnt 2 vid card. Im looking for somethin that will take like a athlon chip.

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aka1nas

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The best you will get is either something using the SiS chipset that takes both Sd-ram or DDR or an Asrock mobo with a VIA chipset that has the same feature. I would grab an ECS k7S5A as it is a pretty popular budget board and still offers decent performance. This is also gives you an upgrade path and you could purchase DDR-RAM for it later.
 

jjyiz28

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km266, kt266a supports both ddr and sdr mem. im using a km266 chipset, (msi km2m), and it takes both sdr/ddr. dont limit yourself to older chipsets, when these newer chipsets support sdr fine
 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: aka1nas
The best you will get is either something using the SiS chipset that takes both Sd-ram or DDR or an Asrock mobo with a VIA chipset that has the same feature. I would grab an ECS k7S5A as it is a pretty popular budget board and still offers decent performance. This is also gives you an upgrade path and you could purchase DDR-RAM for it later.

The K7S5A PRO for $41 and free shipping at Newegg was going to be my suggestion as well. Cheap as hell yet still offers an upgrade path for the future as you said.
 

bluemax

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
km266, kt266a supports both ddr and sdr mem. im using a km266 chipset, (msi km2m), and it takes both sdr/ddr. dont limit yourself to older chipsets, when these newer chipsets support sdr fine

I'm with this fella. It's the newest chipset going that still can use SDRAM. AND it's cheap as well as good - a better bet than the hit-or-miss ECS k7S5A .

Bundle that with an athlon XP processor and you have a complete and decently-powerful system for a reeeeal low price. It has onboard audio and video, though neither is particularly amazing.

Unless you've got LOTS of old SDRAM kicking around, I'd suggest something like my ~$70 Shuttle MN31N nForce2 mobo with great onboard audio and video... maybe you can find someone to trade your SDRAM for DDR... even PC2100 would be enough to make it work.
I traded my PC133 for DDR400 almost one-for-one! :)
Maybe sell your mobo and RAM as a combo, then lean towards something like I mentioned...

You have a video and sound card already? You could sell/trade those too if they're anything less than what's included on the awesome Shuttle MN31N!
 

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If you don't have an XP os, but do have a Win98 or even DOS
you might consider an AMD Duron 1.6ghz for $42 at newegg.
It's short on L2 cache, but every thing else seems reasonable for the times.

I have an ESC K7S5A pro with an AMD 1.4 Tbird that I put my old p100 sdram in.
256meg, pctel 56k amr modem, 30 gig, Septor monitor, Gforce3 mxx 400 64meg, Win98.
It's nothing to brag about but it gets by ok & for the price I'm happy with it.
$100 plus some spare parts.
It is noticably slower than my Asus 256 DDR Duron 1.6 but not by much.

NOTE: I don't know if the Duron 1.6 will run WinXP or not.
I thought it wouldn't ? Maybe other can shed some light on it?
 

DieHardware

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
km266, kt266a supports both ddr and sdr mem. im using a km266 chipset, (msi km2m), and it takes both sdr/ddr. dont limit yourself to older chipsets, when these newer chipsets support sdr fine

I'm with this fella. It's the newest chipset going that still can use SDRAM. AND it's cheap as well as good - a better bet than the hit-or-miss ECS k7S5A .

Bundle that with an athlon XP processor and you have a complete and decently-powerful system for a reeeeal low price. It has onboard audio and video, though neither is particularly amazing.

Unless you've got LOTS of old SDRAM kicking around, I'd suggest something like my ~$70 Shuttle MN31N nForce2 mobo with great onboard audio and video... maybe you can find someone to trade your SDRAM for DDR... even PC2100 would be enough to make it work.
I traded my PC133 for DDR400 almost one-for-one! :)
Maybe sell your mobo and RAM as a combo, then lean towards something like I mentioned...

You have a video and sound card already? You could sell/trade those too if they're anything less than what's included on the awesome Shuttle MN31N!

FUD
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jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: DieHardware
Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
km266, kt266a supports both ddr and sdr mem. im using a km266 chipset, (msi km2m), and it takes both sdr/ddr. dont limit yourself to older chipsets, when these newer chipsets support sdr fine

I'm with this fella. It's the newest chipset going that still can use SDRAM. AND it's cheap as well as good - a better bet than the hit-or-miss ECS k7S5A .

Bundle that with an athlon XP processor and you have a complete and decently-powerful system for a reeeeal low price. It has onboard audio and video, though neither is particularly amazing.

Unless you've got LOTS of old SDRAM kicking around, I'd suggest something like my ~$70 Shuttle MN31N nForce2 mobo with great onboard audio and video... maybe you can find someone to trade your SDRAM for DDR... even PC2100 would be enough to make it work.
I traded my PC133 for DDR400 almost one-for-one! :)
Maybe sell your mobo and RAM as a combo, then lean towards something like I mentioned...

You have a video and sound card already? You could sell/trade those too if they're anything less than what's included on the awesome Shuttle MN31N!

FUD
rolleye.gif

oh please. what will he gain by spreading lies??? ecs is crapshoot.

bitdog: 1.6 applebred will run winxp just fine. y wont it?
 

Ionizer86

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How about the 1700+ or 1800+? Just a bit more money than the Duron 1.6, but they come with tons more cache. If you're lucky and get an older Thorton, you could possibly even enable 256K more cache :)
 

jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: Ionizer86
How about the 1700+ or 1800+? Just a bit more money than the Duron 1.6, but they come with tons more cache. If you're lucky and get an older Thorton, you could possibly even enable 256K more cache :)

well you could mod the duron to get all the 256KB L2 cache. but then again, some people have been getting "A" cores on their applebreds which o/c not so good
 

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Bigger picture: do you have a pretty respectable power supply of at least 300 watts and good quality? An Athlon will be somewhat more demanding than your Cel 750. The K7S5A seemed to kick up a fuss with so-so power supplies, so if your PSU is under 300W or has less than 180W on the combined 3.3V + 5V rails, it could be prudent to factor a 300W+ Sparkle Power PSU into the plan.

I have a first-generation K7S5A and it's still going strong. I leave it running radiosity computations all day and all night, and even with a 33% OC on my 1GHz Duron at default voltage, I'm not having any crashing or stability issues. I did some tests with it, and the performance loss with SDR SDRAM versus DDR SDRAM is not too great, ranging from 0% to 10% slower depending on the nature of the benchmark. So that's my input on the (original-generation) K7S5A for what it's worth.
 

SidewaysN2second

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hopefully i can find something used on the board, also are there any video cards out there that would have any conflicts on any of the above mentioned MOBO's?

thanks for your suggestions, keep em coming!
 

SidewaysN2second

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hopefully i can find something used on the board, also are there any video cards out there that would have any conflicts on any of the above mentioned MOBO's?

thanks for your suggestions, keep em coming!
 

GoodRevrnd

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Bigger picture: do you have a pretty respectable power supply of at least 300 watts and good quality? An Athlon will be somewhat more demanding than your Cel 750. The K7S5A seemed to kick up a fuss with so-so power supplies, so if your PSU is under 300W or has less than 180W on the combined 3.3V + 5V rails, it could be prudent to factor a 300W+ Sparkle Power PSU into the plan.

I have a first-generation K7S5A and it's still going strong. I leave it running radiosity computations all day and all night, and even with a 33% OC on my 1GHz Duron at default voltage, I'm not having any crashing or stability issues. I did some tests with it, and the performance loss with SDR SDRAM versus DDR SDRAM is not too great, ranging from 0% to 10% slower depending on the nature of the benchmark. So that's my input on the (original-generation) K7S5A for what it's worth.
Listen to this man. The majority of all K7S5A problems are power-supply related. I myself have used probably 6 of these boards (from original rev 1.2 to the new Pro versions) and only one of them was questionable (it caused a few wierd graphical corruptions w/ a TI4400, replacing the board solved the problem, was flawless otherwise).