Whats the best DDR3 memory, aside from 2000mhz for a gaming rig

[MraK]

Hello Everyone, I am currently building a new gaming rig for myself and I was leaning to make use of a high-end DDR3 memory, to last me at least 2 years since the trend of game requirements aren?t so demanding every few months, well that?s just me. Oh btw i was thinking of starting out with 4GB.

Question: Should i just wait till DDR3 2000mhz gets cheaper or should i just get the 1600s??

My current budget right now is around $4500 grand, including the Monitor

CPU: Possibly Core 2 Duo extreme, since Quad is not popular for gaming yet
Motherboard: Was thinking of the 790i SLI boards or probably wait till the 890i (that if their will ever be one like that by the end of this year lol
Memory: CORSAIR TW3X4G1600C9DHX 4gb kit (4gb x 2) 1600mhz DDR3
Videocard: Dual or even Tri if possible GTX280s, waiting till it comes out (last week of June I believe)
Optical Drive: PIONEER BDC-2202B blu-ray SATA combo DVD rw+ blu-ray player
Casing: Antec Twelve Hundred *Full-tower*
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling TURBO-COOL 1KW-SR EPS12V 1000W
Monitor: Samsung 275T 27? inch HDMI-LCD
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit system
Aftermarket Cooling: Zalman CNPS9700 NT CPU Cooler (not familiar with what watercooling brands are the best, maybe you guys could help me on that department)

Any other suggestions would help me a lot, Thanks in advance



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[taltamir]

4GB is really the minimum today.

Going from DDR2-800 to DDR3 1600 you will see about 1-3% improvement. Going any faster will have even lower returns. Paying an arm and a leg for expensive DDR3 makes no sense unless the REST of your system is uber.
Unless you got tri-sli + quad core extreme + etc there is really no reason to spend extra money on "faster" ram. You are better off throwing the extra money (and it is throwing) on something else.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

DDR3 review
These are not 4Gb kits but what kind of configuration of memory are you going for? New Egg has the 2gb Super Talent, which IMO is the better deal out of all of them seeing the overclockability at the timings the review says. If you don't mind spending close to 800$ for Cell Shock, MemoryC has them but they are made in Germany and sold in Ireland. They do ship to the US if you live in the states, but the Super Talent is the better deal. A 4Gb 2 stick kit (super T) are starting to hit the market at @ 400$ luckily i picked my up for 366$ after shipping at Cesell.com

EDIT: dude, whats wrong with the system you got right now (sig)!?!?

 

[dv8silencer]

4 GB is definitely a minimum (and I would define that to be a slighty-above-maintstream amount)
So that is a good starting point. Just make sure it's not 4 x 1GB haha.

How many posts?

 

[MraK]

taltamir,

how about 4GB of DDR3 1333mhz ram sound? As your name sounds familiar as you most probably posted on my other threads, check out the other part of my thread in the CPU section to see what final rig i have decided to build.

BTRY,

what DDR3 1333 memory do you recommend i get?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I would not recommend DDR3 1333. Most of the Intels are 1333 quad pumped fsb and can make it to 1600 quad pumped or 400fsb keeping your ration at 1:2 which is ideal.

What type of memory configuration are you shooting for? 2x2, 4x1, I know you are looking at 4gb minimum but you haven't told us your config yet. A 2x2Gb will be somewhere between 4-600$ maybe lower.

If you do not understand overclocking and how your memory relates read this: *important* it helped confirmed some things and I caught a few errors on top of it

When you decide your kit, we'll continue this.

 

[MraK]

I have narrowed it down to three types/brands. The OCz for value, Patriot for popularity and Corsair for *well known brand name*. I also have noticed that you are using DDR3 1600 memory in one of you rigs *in your sig*, what are you using?

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit $312 (with shipping)

Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit $409 (with shipping)

CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit $380 (with shipping)

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Have you even checked the review link I posted!? You'll see the Super Talent is the best balance of speed and overclockability. They do what DDR3 2000 does at their best timings. Those are 2x1gb configurations but I figured they'll use the came IC chip on the 4Gb 2x2 configs and they do. The pair I am waiting for to come in (big debocle with Cesell) are Super Talent, 2x2gb 7.7.7.21 @ 1.8v the 2Gb configuration is a 7.7.7.18 @ 1.9v. They ran me 366$ the others (2x1gb kit Super Talent) are 245$ at the Egg I can't give any experience with them but they are what I need with a 7.5 multi on my Q9300 and the review is an indicator as to their performance. With the use of Micron IC's they are sure to be quality memory sticks. The kit now goes for low 400's unless you find a deal. I 'll be getting mine in on this Wed. So, if you want more info on how they work for me, i'll let you know.

Read the article i posted above, it'll help you too.

Cheers

 

[MraK]

BTRY,

The memory configuration I'm aiming for is 2x2, so that i could stick 4 more gigs to make it 8gigs, in the future of course. And as of now i have decided to get a Quad Core, a Q9450 and try my best to OC it to at least 4.0Ghz (hopefully that is possible, all i need is the right parts to make it reach that mark and be stable at the same time). Many have said to stick to Dual Core, like the e8400 or e8500 for there nice OCing abilities, but since we're moving into the Quad era, i just know that games coming out next summer to xmas will benefit from Quad, or so i believe.

As for reading the info that you asked me to read, i havent read it yet, sorry to say, but since i have given you what i was looking for to do, right off the bat, would kind and brand memory do you think fits this kind of demand from this memory configuration and going Quad? Thanks in Advance.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Its simple. Take the multiplier and multiply it by the fsb and that'll give you your CPU speed. Double the fsb speed and that'll should atleast be half of your memory speed. Hopefully for you you'll reach 4Ghz. With that processor you'll have to have a mobo that'll achieve 500fsb, which form what i heard is for the experienced overclockers and probably exotic cooling. You may be shooting to high with that CPU. May wanna ask about that in your CPU thread. But with that fsb speed and keeping the ratio at the ideal 1:2 you'll have to have memory that'll reach DDR3 2000 - 1:2 is just the ideal ratio it won't hurt being anything between 1:2 and 1:1 Anyways the Micron chips in the Super Talent memory sticks are paving the way in the 4gb 2x2 config. However there are better memory sticks called CellShock running lower voltage and tighter timings but are only in a 2Gb config and are 400$ for 2 gig = boo I would try and find the 4gb Super Talent sticks:eWiz 384$

I would go with your quad decision. I mean, whats the difference between a quad running at 4gh and a dual at 4Ghz? maybe heat? higher instability scale rate? Personally I can't wait to get my quad up and running for games

 

[MraK]

so basically if i would want a Quad, say a Q9550, to reach 4.0ghz i would most probably need DDR3 1600s-2000s? And i agree with you statement that you would go with quad because soon enough in the end or the time of next year games would make good use of Quads and give Duals a hard time.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: MrAK
so basically if i would want a Quad, say a Q9550, to reach 4.0ghz i would most probably need DDR3 1600s-2000s?

Absolutely

1600 will give you 400 fsb automatically, 450 = you'll have to have memory that'll reach/overclock to 1800, or just buy 1800. For people who don't have a 4500$ budget, we seek stable overclockable hardware. For me, and what seems to be the best deal, is the Super Talent 1600. They overclock beyond 2000 at 8.7.6.21 @ 1T

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN

Originally posted by: MrAK
so basically if i would want a Quad, say a Q9550, to reach 4.0ghz i would most probably need DDR3 1600s-2000s?

Absolutely

1600 will give you 400 fsb automatically, 450 = you'll have to have memory that'll reach/overclock to 1800, or just buy 1800. For people who don't have a 4500$ budget, we seek stable overclockable hardware. For me, and what seems to be the best deal, is the Super Talent 1600. They overclock beyond 2000 at 8.7.6.21 @ 1T

DDR-1600 will give you up to an 800 FSB, not 400.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

so 800fsb x the multi? no, its 400fsb - 800 effectively. Double Data Rate (DDR) gives the 800; 800 fsb frequency in bios is unheard of ...yet

 

[Isaac MM]

There is also G.SKILL 1600mhz DDR3

 

[MraK]

*For everyone who has been viewing and posting on this thread, i have relayed this topic to the general hardware section and there you could finally see what specs i chose for my new gaming rig* check it out!