What's the baddest ass PCI vidcard in existance (for under $200)
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either a Radeon 9100 PCI or a 5200 PCI.
Since all new cores heavily rely on the advantages of AGP bus command, their PCI counterpart do not perform too well. The difference should minor, so price is the major consideration here.
Since all new cores heavily rely on the advantages of AGP bus command, their PCI counterpart do not perform too well. The difference should minor, so price is the major consideration here.
You won't spend anywhere close to $200 for a top end pci card--more like $60. 9100 would be your best bet. I wouldn't exactly call it bad ass, but it's the best you'll find for pci these days.
Radeon 9100 PCI is about as "badass" as you're going to get. The FX5600 is bus-limited and overpriced.
But if I were your friend, I'd sell the Gateway and build my own AGP-slot-bearing machine.
- M4H
But if I were your friend, I'd sell the Gateway and build my own AGP-slot-bearing machine.
- M4H
VisionTek Xtasy 9100 128MB DDR PCI ?$119 is probably the best PCI card. It?s clcoked 250/250. Sapphire also makes a PCI 9100 128MB that?s clocked 250/200 that?s a pretty good card too. The memory on the Sapphire overclocks to close to the same speeds as the Visiontek. You could google search for the Sapphire card.
SneakyStuff
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Yea, there is no such thing as a "badass pci card" next time, he should at least do some research before buying an overpriced computer thats obviously not built for gaming 
wow, that emotion is super fruity
wow, that emotion is super fruity
paperfist
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What makes it sadder is a lot of people who've RMA'd defective GeForce 4 Ti 4200 cards under warranty and had the card vendors send them a 5200-series card as a replacement. That's what's really sad.
a 64mb radeon 7000 pci can perform over a 4mb 810 chipset.
pci have to low bandwidth,take new mobo for 120$ and buy 128mb radeon 9xxx or fx 5xxx in the rest of money
pci have to low bandwidth,take new mobo for 120$ and buy 128mb radeon 9xxx or fx 5xxx in the rest of money
Ehhh, not true. Paired with a decent processor (which most new PCI-only rigs have), the 9100 PCI can hold its own in games like UT2003 and such at up to 1024x768x32, with decent framerates. Granted, it probably won't play HALO well, or the upcoming Doom3 or HL2, but to say that the card is only decent at 640x480x16 is just plain ignorant.
i mena pci can't play the latest games at very high fps and also at very high settings,
pci have a bandwidth of 133mbps while agp 4x has 1gb,current games have bogged up the 2x,566mbps and are needing 1gb and are trying to bog the 4x too.
so a pci 128mb radeon 9100 is not much better than 64mb geforce 4 agp 4x.
go for new nforce 2 mobo=80$
128mb agp 8x radeon 9600pro=130$+
pci have a bandwidth of 133mbps while agp 4x has 1gb,current games have bogged up the 2x,566mbps and are needing 1gb and are trying to bog the 4x too.
so a pci 128mb radeon 9100 is not much better than 64mb geforce 4 agp 4x.
go for new nforce 2 mobo=80$
128mb agp 8x radeon 9600pro=130$+
The real point is though, that a 9100 will kick ass all over the onboard intel graphics the machine already has.
I know a guy who got his 4200 replaced with an FX5600 - that was still a downgrade, but only slightly. A 5200 would be unacceptable - I would complain about that.
Fortunately, my ASUS 4200 was replaced with a like card. I still gotta replace the fan on the new card.
I did a lot of research, and ended up on purchasing a Sapphire Radeon 9100 128mb PCI card from Enet Marketing (OEM) . It is used in a Dell Dimension 2400 w/ATA 100 hd, 256mb DDR, 533mhz FSB, 2.6ghz CPU.
I have used the tweak guide found here, and Rage3D's overclocker to maximize it. I am currently running it at 290.25/270.00 with absolutely no problems, artifacts, etc. In fact, All the way up to this, i didn't even 'break in' the card. I have only stock cooling, and no h/w peformance mods at all. I am using the latest ATI Catalyst drivers, and original card bios. I feel pretty confident that I can take this even higher, but stuck to these values because it was the highest Mloot could achieve from what I read. I can probably slide it to 295/280 though with little problems because it has been a breeze this high.
I have tested it on UTK2004. Game play is good. Definitely above average, and most likely better than a lot of $70 AGP cards. I paid $74 shipped. Only drawback is it won't do DX9.0, but i'll worry about that when the time comes. for now, UTK2004 is awesome playing, and I was fraggin people left and right that probably have higher bandwidth video cards than myself (and i'm using the dinky free mouse from Dell
My other box is an Athlon XP 1.4, with Radeon 7500 AGP card, ATA/100 HD, 256DDR. Game play is noticeably faster on this DELL machine. Of course, the CPU power makes a big deal, I will probably up the ram to 512mb too. Quite honestly, for the occasional gamer, Dell 2400's with fast CPUS, such as mine, 533mhz FSB, and this video card (make sure you get visiontek, or Sapphire), you can get GOOD game play, not average. My total out of the pocket expense for this box was $420 W/SoundBlaster live 5.1 card, CD-RW, and the video card.
Not bad for the occasional gamer.
I have used the tweak guide found here, and Rage3D's overclocker to maximize it. I am currently running it at 290.25/270.00 with absolutely no problems, artifacts, etc. In fact, All the way up to this, i didn't even 'break in' the card. I have only stock cooling, and no h/w peformance mods at all. I am using the latest ATI Catalyst drivers, and original card bios. I feel pretty confident that I can take this even higher, but stuck to these values because it was the highest Mloot could achieve from what I read. I can probably slide it to 295/280 though with little problems because it has been a breeze this high.
I have tested it on UTK2004. Game play is good. Definitely above average, and most likely better than a lot of $70 AGP cards. I paid $74 shipped. Only drawback is it won't do DX9.0, but i'll worry about that when the time comes. for now, UTK2004 is awesome playing, and I was fraggin people left and right that probably have higher bandwidth video cards than myself (and i'm using the dinky free mouse from Dell
My other box is an Athlon XP 1.4, with Radeon 7500 AGP card, ATA/100 HD, 256DDR. Game play is noticeably faster on this DELL machine. Of course, the CPU power makes a big deal, I will probably up the ram to 512mb too. Quite honestly, for the occasional gamer, Dell 2400's with fast CPUS, such as mine, 533mhz FSB, and this video card (make sure you get visiontek, or Sapphire), you can get GOOD game play, not average. My total out of the pocket expense for this box was $420 W/SoundBlaster live 5.1 card, CD-RW, and the video card.
Not bad for the occasional gamer.
Hey, ?.I see you kept the Sapphire 9100 over the Visiontek. Good stuff. And you?re getting nice overclocks with the memory too. My Sapphire 9100 64MB GPU runs stable as high as 310MHz and starts to get flaky around ~ 315 so your 290 should be good. Those are really nice cards for $70.
This is also false
Modern games and cards are not usually limited by the speed of their bus as they tend to keep the texture data on card in the video cards own RAM. Main RAM is soo much slower that anytime you page out to it from graphics RAM your performance goes down significantly. If your video card is saturating either the PCI or AGP bus, than you have worse problems than what slot your video card goes in. Most cards do not show any benefit from 8x AGP and very minimal benfit from 4x over 2x AGP. Please do more research next time before posting erroneous information, thank you.
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