What's the average oc of t-bred 1700+ and 1800+?

[Xtasy]

I'm interested in getting one of these budget processors in hopes of getting it to clock to 2ghz (2400+). Doe the majority of these t-breds hit 2ghz at 1.75 volts max?

 

[pbroussard]

At 1.75 vcore, most are hitting 1850-1900 mhz. Aiuga from newegg been running seti for 3 weeks at 1.75vcore, 1877mhz. Still not bad for a $60 cpu....

Paul

 

[Regalk]

Mine hits 1863 at 1.575v - now imagine what 1.7 to 1.75 will achieve if I wanted to but the extra speed is useless for what I do.

 

[drewdogg808]

also, i've been reading about the 1800s being more likely to hit 2ghz than the 1700s. not sure about 1.75v though...it may take a little more, unless you're lucky.

 

[The Sauce]

Of the 1800+'s they all seem to get from 1.9 - 2.1 GHz. I have mine running 2.01 @ 1.725V. For some reason the 1700+'s don't seem to make it that high.

 

[FIFO]

I have the following: XP1700+ AIUGA Week 44 t-bred A

I have achieved the following:

1888 Mhz @ 1.5v
2100 Mhz @ 2.2v (Just went nuts. Might not actually need the 2.2v)

Heatsink used: Thermal Integration - Dr. Thermal V77-L with stock fan.

Grease used: Arctic Silver 3

 

[Telsari]

Check out the article Anand wrote... or was it Anand? Oh well. I hear that 1700+ gets at least 1800-1900 range, and 1800+ gets 1900-2000+ Mhz.

 

[Mingon]

Got mine today (1800+) first impressions damn its small, second impressions damn its hot! It seems to run around 10c higher at default than my 1600xp@1743mhz. currently at 11 x 166 1.775v and its very toasty - think I will swap it back when I get a chance and put it into a SFF case. Although temps are high, their is not much between idle and heavy load.

 

[RU482]

sounds like you need a better HSF? Cu maybe?

 

[Mingon]

The koolance case I use has a Copper heat block so I doubt thats the problem

 

[FIFO]

Just because it has copper does not mean that it is not the culprit. There are very good all aluminum HSFs that are much better than low to mid quality all copper HSFs.

Here is a list of results of the latest and greatest al, cu, al/cu and hybrid HSFs: link

When you look through the list, notice how many of the hybrid designs (ie: non-standard fin orientation) are at the top of the list. I personally use a Thermal Integration - Dr. Thermal V77-L with stock fan. I used the same thing on a t-bird 900 and I had a max temp from my 8KHA+ of 35 C. When I switched to the t-bred A, the temp stayed the same @ the stock 1700+ speed. Running @ 1.88 Ghz I only went up to 37 C. The place in the house, the internals of the PC and the ambient air temperature all stayed the same so there is no opportunity for a skewed result.

I second the motion and say, get a better HSF.

Good luck.

 

[CraigRT]

I had my XP1700+ at 1720MHz but the crappy 2100 in that system wouldn't go any higher at fastest mem timings. so i put it to 1690.. works fine now.. i think the CPU could go alot more!

 

[Mingon]

Just because it has copper does not mean that it is not the culprit. There are very good all aluminum HSFs that are much better than low to mid quality all copper HSFs.

Just because you get low reading from the cpu socket doesnt mean they are accurate - my mobo reads from the internal diode so it is accurate the additional socket thermometer reads only 35c - I know which one is true. As for the heatsink it is more than capable - it kept my 1600xp runnning at 1743mhz / 1.95v never showing more than 49c from the internal diode so I know its not the heatsink. I worked as an engineer for 9 yrs so I know the problem is in the transferal of heat and not the dissapation - the core is tiny

 

[NazzyG]

Never underestimate the role that airflow takes in cooling your CPU. By this I mean that many people spend big $$$ on a nice heatsink/fan and have a case/powersupply that doesn't circulate air very well. If your case is designed well and you've got a dual fan power supply you should get cooler temps by keeping the panels on the side of your case because it will shoot air right over the motherboard. Then all your heatsink/fan is really doing is getting the heat a few inches away from your CPU. The case/power supply does the rest.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FIFO
Just because it has copper does not mean that it is not the culprit. There are very good all aluminum HSFs that are much better than low to mid quality all copper HSFs.

Here is a list of results of the latest and greatest al, cu, al/cu and hybrid HSFs: link

When you look through the list, notice how many of the hybrid designs (ie: non-standard fin orientation) are at the top of the list. I personally use a Thermal Integration - Dr. Thermal V77-L with stock fan. I used the same thing on a t-bird 900 and I had a max temp from my 8KHA+ of 35 C. When I switched to the t-bred A, the temp stayed the same @ the stock 1700+ speed. Running @ 1.88 Ghz I only went up to 37 C. The place in the house, the internals of the PC and the ambient air temperature all stayed the same so there is no opportunity for a skewed result.

I second the motion and say, get a better HSF.

Good luck.

Psst...Mingnong was referring to the copper water block in his Koolance system, not a heatsink/fan combo. Pretty sure that isn't limiting him.

 

[KIAman]

I have my 1700+ AUIGA at 2000mhz@1.725v. It is about 5c hotter than my AGOIA at comparable speeds. This was tested several times with slk-800 with 84cfm vantec tornado.

 

[FIFO]

That is cool BigJ2078. I was thinking that he might have meant water block but when he only said block I decided to guess air cooled. Thought he might have been using a copper shim or an all coper HS. But I noticed that he didn't specify in his reply as to what it was, you guessed too.

No need to get ruffled mingon. Most of us don't know what we all do for a living. Although I am sure that if we all did or could put it in our profile that it could/would eliminate a lot of the angst/misunderstanding that can occurr on these forums.

Anyhoo...

I am well aware of the whole socket vs. die thing. Unfortunately I am stuck with socket readings only at this time. To find out where the socket thermistor sits for approx accuracy, I disconnected the fan from my HSF back a year ago with a duron 600 @ 866 and 1.85 Vcore. I loaded the CPU down with prime95 and waited. It locked up at 50 C. I repeated the test a few times and it happened at the same temp each time. With the WP from AMD stating that the old spitfire core had a max running temp of 90 C, I can guesstimate that 50 C = 90 C on my mobo. As we all know this would only apply for my mobo. I know this for sure because a friend of mine is running an XP1600 in the same model of motherboard @ the same BIOS rev and his system was reporting a load temp of 56 C and the system was not crashing. It could possibly only apply to ceramic packaging as well but I am a little timid of performing the same test using my t-bred A.

No harm no fowl. I am fine if you are fine.

Thanks,
Jason.


P.S. -- It might be hot but if it runs stable for more than 24 hrs in a torture test is that not fine?
P.S.S -- Gonna be going for as low a Vcore as possible @ 2100 Mhz tonight.