What's Right With Kerry

MonstaThrilla

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Just like George Bush? It is true that Kerry, another Yalie and Skull and Bones alum, has voted in favor of NAFTA and other corporate-friendly trade pacts, that he once raised questions about affirmative action (while still supporting it), that he has, like almost every Democratic senator, accepted contributions from special-interest lobbyists (while being one of the few to eschew political action committee donations), that he voted to grant Bush the authority to invade Iraq. But this hardly makes him Bush lite. There is, as evidence, his nineteen-year Senate record, during which he has voted consistently in favor of abortion rights and environmental policies, opposed Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, led the effort against drilling in the Alaskan wilderness, pushed for higher fuel economy standards, advocated boosting the minimum wage and pressed for global warming remedies. But what distinguishes Kerry's career are key moments when he displayed guts and took tough actions that few colleagues would imitate. One rap on Kerry is that he is overly cautious and conventional. He's no firebrand on the stump, nor does he come across as the most passionate and exciting force for change. But his history in Washington includes episodes in which he demonstrated a willingness to confront hard issues, to challenge power, to pursue values rather than political advantage, to take risks for the public interest.

The article goes on to document Kerry's investigations linking drug trafficking and the contras and an unscrupulous donator to his own party, his Vietnam POW inquiry, his fight against DOMA, and the "Clean Money, Clean Elections" Act which he cowrote with Paul Wellstone. A good read if you have the time. Mind you, he isn't the Nation's #1 choice for Presidential candidate.
 

Nietzscheusw

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<< the "Clean Money, Clean Elections" Act which he cowrote with Paul Wellstone >>
Now that Wellstone has been assassinated, Kerry dropped the Act.
Kerry took more corruption money than any other senator in the past 15 years.
Noone is more hypocritical than him.
How could anyone ever trust him?
He is a faker. He acts like he takes on a serious issue (like drug trafficking and the contras), but in the end he always drops it. He is very useful to protect the corrupt powers that be.
 

Moonbeam

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This is terrible. For the first time in my life I'm going to have to vote for some worthless politician. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw

Now that Wellstone has been assassinated, Kerry dropped the Act.
Adjust that chinstrap on your tinfoil hat. Senator Wellstone's plane went down in horrible weather.
 

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Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
<< the "Clean Money, Clean Elections" Act which he cowrote with Paul Wellstone >>
Now that Wellstone has been assassinated, Kerry dropped the Act.
Kerry took more corruption money than any other senator in the past 15 years.
Noone is more hypocritical than him.
How could anyone ever trust him?
He is a faker. He acts like he takes on a serious issue (like drug trafficking and the contras), but in the end he always drops it. He is very useful to protect the corrupt powers that be.


Says you. Back away from the bong, bubba. And don't drink the water in it. Your brain is fugged up.
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Nietzscheusw

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
<< the "Clean Money, Clean Elections" Act which he cowrote with Paul Wellstone >>
Now that Wellstone has been assassinated, Kerry dropped the Act.
Kerry took more corruption money than any other senator in the past 15 years.
Noone is more hypocritical than him.
How could anyone ever trust him?
He is a faker. He acts like he takes on a serious issue (like drug trafficking and the contras), but in the end he always drops it. He is very useful to protect the corrupt powers that be.


Says you. Back away from the bong, bubba. And don't drink the water in it. Your brain is fugged up.
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The Two John Kerrys
Will we get the populist or the lord of special interests?
by Doug Ireland

John Kerry is a man with two faces. There?s the fire-breathing populist whose thundering stump speeches against special interests made him Comeback Kerry, who won in Iowa and New Hampshire and became the Democrats? indisputable front-runner. And then there?s Corporate Kerry, who has taken more money from lobbyists in the last 15 years than any other senator, according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) ? and who has repeatedly carried water for the special interests that smothered him in campaign cash.

Comeback Kerry would also like to be known as Campaign Reform Kerry, the principal co-sponsor, with the late Paul Wellstone, of the Clean Money, Clean Elections bill that would take special-interest cash out of politics in federal elections and replace it with full public financing of campaigns. Kerry has repeatedly boasted of this on the stump ? as in the January 6 debate, when he said proudly, ?Paul Wellstone and I together wrote the Clean Elections law.? In the 106th, 107th and 108th Congresses, Kerry?s name was on the bill, which has yet to become law. Then Wellstone, the Senate?s liberal conscience, died ? and Kerry started running for president. Guess what? In the current, 108th Congress, Cautious Kerry, the decorated war hero, went AWOL, refusing to reintroduce the bill he now boasts about ? leaving it with no sponsor in the Senate.

On primary night in New Hampshire, in his victory speech, Kerry again repeated the applause line that won for him: ?I have a message for the influence peddlers and the special interests: We?re coming. You?re going. And don?t let the door hit you on the way out.?

?It?s very hard for Kerry to utter this rhetoric without some hollowness to it,? according to Charles Lewis, the former investigative journalist who heads the Center for Public Integrity and whose quadrennial series of books on The Buying of the President have become best-sellers. Kerry, Lewis says, ?has been brought to you by special interests.?

Example: Kerry?s ?largest campaign contributor lobbies on behalf of telecommunication interests,? and Kerry ?pushed the legislative priorities of its clients in the wireless industry,? according to research for the CPI?s 2004 book (available on its Web site). That contributor, the powerhouse Boston law firm and lobbying shop Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo, is where Kerry?s brother Cameron ? a major Kerry-campaign insider ? works, and where Kerry?s former chief of staff, David Leiter, is a lobbyist. Mintz, Levin has given at least $231,000 to Kerry.

According to CPI, Mintz, Levin advertises communications law among its areas of expertise and lobbies on behalf of wireless-industry clients such as AT&T Wireless Service, XO Communications Inc. and the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. CTIA is the trade association of the wireless industry. The center found that CTIA-affiliated companies and their employees have contributed at least $152,000 to Kerry and that since 1999 Kerry has taken positions that closely reflect the legislative agenda of CTIA. He sponsored two bills that CTIA lobbied for and co-sponsored six more. Not only do Kerry?s assiduous efforts on behalf of the telecommunications industry help his brother?s clients, a big chunk of the combined fortune of Kerry and his wife ? perhaps as much as $47.1 million ? is in telecommunications stock affected by the pro-CTIA legislation Kerry has carried.

Another example is the deregulation of the securities industry. An industry-windfall bill with an Orwellian name, the Securities Litigation Reform Act, was promise number nine in Newt Gingrich?s Contract on America. It stripped legal protections from defrauded investors and made it harder for them to recover damages with a ?loser pays? provision; repealed application of the federal rackets law to financial transactions; and sharply curtailed monitoring of Wall Street abuses. A 1995 New York Times editorial called this boon to investment bankers, securities manipulators, and Enron/WorldCom-style corporations and their frauding go-go execs ?a threat to American civil justice.? But Kerry not only voted for the bill, he voted to override Bill Clinton?s veto of it. Kerry?s reward: He?s raked in $1,669,000 in contributions from the special interests that benefited from the law, like FleetBoston Financial, CitiGroup, Goldman Sachs and other similar firms.

In this week?s Newsweek, crack investigative reporter Michael Isikoff ? in an article entitled ?Cash and Kerry? ? unveils letters from Kerry to Johnny Chung, a star of the 1996 campaign-finance scandals, who pleaded guilty to giving $28,000 illegally to Kerry?s and Bill Clinton?s campaigns (the money turned out to have come from wire transfers by the head of Chinese military intelligence). In 1996, Kerry ? in the fight of his life for re-election against then-Massachusetts Governor Bill Weld ? helped grease the way for getting a corporation run by one of Chung?s cronies listed on the stock exchange by arranging a private meeting with the SEC. Kerry?s reward: Chung raised him $10,000 at a Beverly Hills fund-raiser. Kerry has always claimed he never knew Chung until the fund-raiser ? but the Newsweek revelations show Kerry, in a handwritten?Dear Johnny? letter, wrote to Chung months earlier that ?It means a lot to have someone like you on my team as I face the toughest race of my career.? Newsweek adds that Kerry used his position as a member of the Senate Finance Committee to collect $3 million from firms with an interest in the committee?s work.

With all this sort of thing in Kerry?s past and present, it?s no wonder that the Center for Responsive Politics? director, Larry Noble, told the Washington Post that ?it?s harder for someone like Kerry to take on? Bush over special interests ?because he?s taken money from . . . a lot of the same? corporate sectors. The fat cats have flocked to Kerry: 55 percent of his presidential campaign?s cash comes from $2,000 contributors, meaning he?s closing in on Bush (who gets 73 percent from such big-check writers), according to The New York Times. There?s more. Kerry the ?populist? voted in 2000 to shred the Community Reinvestment Act, which obliged banks to service impoverished areas and lend them money. Kerry voted just two years ago to repeal the Public Utility Holding Company Act, designed to keep energy prices to consumers low by forbidding utilities companies to invest speculatively in businesses outside the energy field.

Kerry?s Janus-like profile isn?t confined just to serving the special interests while denouncing them to win the Democratic nomination. He voted for the blank check for war in Iraq ? and now denounces Bush for ?lies? he once believed. On October 9, 2002, Kerry told the Senate, ?Why is Saddam Hussein attempting to develop nuclear weapons when most nations don?t even try? . . . Iraq has chemical and biological weapons . . . Iraq is developing unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering chemical- and biological-warfare agents.? Of course, every single one of those statements about Iraq has since been proved to be empty rhetoric.

So, the question before Democratic voters is: If you cast your ballot for John Kerry, which one will you get?

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/11/news-ireland.php

 

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I like the way he flip flops on every issue, he votes one way they tells everyone another story. This is what I like about him.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is terrible. For the first time in my life I'm going to have to vote for some worthless politician. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Don't forget bigot too;)

CkG

Kerry is not a bigot. He is for civil union. That's good. He is probably also for gay marriage but opposes it for political reasons. That makes him a gutless politition and worse than a bigot, but not a bigot because his reasons aren't irrational, there just disgusting and hypocritical. It's good folks like you who are irrational that are the bigots and somewhat better people but your bigotry is still evil. He's still better than the murderer Bush who sent people to die in an illegal war, don't forget that.
 

Corn

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Perhaps you can define for us the term "illegal war". What precisely makes the Iraq war "illegal".

 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is terrible. For the first time in my life I'm going to have to vote for some worthless politician. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Don't forget bigot too;)

CkG

Kerry is not a bigot. He is for civil union. That's good. He is probably also for gay marriage but opposes it for political reasons. That makes him a gutless politition and worse than a bigot, but not a bigot because his reasons aren't irrational, there just disgusting and hypocritical. It's good folks like you who are irrational that are the bigots and somewhat better people but your bigotry is still evil. He's still better than the murderer Bush who sent people to die in an illegal war, don't forget that.

This is really fun watching Moonbeam work up the nerve to vote for Kerry.
 

Corn

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This is really fun watching Moonbeam work up the nerve to vote for Kerry.

Oh, I've never doubted his nerve to vote for Kerry. It was easy for Moonie to call Kerry a traitor when Freaky Dean was in the spotlight.

Screw your principles Moonie, just hold your nose!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corn
This is really fun watching Moonbeam work up the nerve to vote for Kerry.

Oh, I've never doubted his nerve to vote for Kerry. It was easy for Moonie to call Kerry a traitor when Freaky Dean was in the spotlight.

Screw your principles Moonie, just hold your nose!

Good grief Corn, I'm not a member of the party of character. It was no more easy for me to call Kerry a traitor then than now. I got no happiness voting for him at all. He's a potential disaster, but Bush is a know and certain one. I would vote for a Chimpanzee over Bush and would have. I don't mind you getting all excited thinking I got to eat some crow or whatever it is you fancy, but I have to be honest with you. It's just as easy now. Dean in the picture had nothing to do with a thing. You got me confused with them people of character that imagine they have rock for principles but blow like leaves in the wind. I don't have an axe to grind or a top to spin. I don't get tripped up with that. I shoot straight from the heart. But you know that. You were just kidding. The thing about honest people is that they recognize each other.

edit: Let me know though if you find out that Kerry cheats on his wife. I won't vote for him in that case just like I didn't vote for Clinton. But then it wouldn't have been a disaster if Dole won. I'm a big picture thinker and always look at the context. You know what I mean.