What's Harder for you to Believe in: Aliens or God?

[z42]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: z42
Aliens for me.

My Reasoning:
The more we (as a society/species) learn about science the more evident it is that everything around me is not an accident. Therefore, I am confronted with evidence daily that some type of God/gods exist.

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No what you are confronted daily with is the notion that you haven't a clue as to how the universe actualy came about so a God/Gods is the only answer you can fathom.

If you have the answer to how the universe actually came about please enlighten me.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: z42

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: z42
Aliens for me.

My Reasoning:
The more we (as a society/species) learn about science the more evident it is that everything around me is not an accident. Therefore, I am confronted with evidence daily that some type of God/gods exist.

.

No what you are confronted daily with is the notion that you haven't a clue as to how the universe actualy came about so a God/Gods is the only answer you can fathom.

If you have the answer to how the universe actually came about please enlighten me.

I don't know.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: z42


If you have the answer to how the universe actually came about please enlighten me.

I don't know.

The only intellectually honest answer.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DaShen
what is with all of the RELIGIOUS threads today. :|

I am a religious guy myself, but I don't go proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement. Man, i wanted to ignore it, but no some people keep writing this junk.

Anyways, how are aliens and God even in the same category? Stop posting useless questions such as this.

/thread

Aliens and (intrinsic/transcendental) God are most definitely in the same category.

- "Higher power" extraterrestrial beings
- May have created life on earth (i.e. "seed theory" for aliens)
- May communicate/interact/interfere with life on earth
- No proof whatsoever that either exist
- Large followings of faithful believers

I suggest you pick up your Bible and read the Book of Ezekiel, starting with the 1st chapter.

 

[FrustratedUser]

I am 100% convinced there are other life form on other planets. The probability that earth is the only planet in the entire universe with billions of starts and galaxies where life exists is so low it's not funny.

The probability of an existing 'God' can't even be calculated since it's based on belief and not facts.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: DaShen
what is with all of the RELIGIOUS threads today. :|

I am a religious guy myself, but I don't go proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement. Man, i wanted to ignore it, but no some people keep writing this junk.

Anyways, how are aliens and God even in the same category? Stop posting useless questions such as this.

/thread

Geezus, corn cob up your ass much? What is your problem with critical thinking threads like this? How am I "proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement" by making a thread that questions your beliefs and doesn't mention a thing about religion? All I'm asking is which one do you have a harder time believing in since both require a certain amount of faith (unless you actually believe you saw God/think you were abducted by aliens).

So again, WTF is your problem with my thread? I didn't even know religion was todays ATOT theme, I made this early in the day before reading many other posts, but even if I did read them first it wouldn't matter I still would have posted this. So stop trying to make it into something it's not.

 

[randay]

God is an Alien. Don't let him spit on you, his spit is like acid. Also he pops out of peoples chests, its really cool. They are all like "Oh my GOD!" *splorg* /emote god pops out of chest.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
Drake equation means sh!t - we have one, and only one, intelligent life to base any of the values from. The rest we're just pulling out of our collective asses.

Chuck Norris?

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: DaShen
what is with all of the RELIGIOUS threads today. :|

I am a religious guy myself, but I don't go proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement. Man, i wanted to ignore it, but no some people keep writing this junk.

Anyways, how are aliens and God even in the same category? Stop posting useless questions such as this.

/thread

Aliens and (intrinsic/transcendental) God are most definitely in the same category.

- "Higher power" extraterrestrial beings
- May have created life on earth (i.e. "seed theory" for aliens)
- May communicate/interact/interfere with life on earth
- No proof whatsoever that either exist
- Large followings of faithful believers

I suggest you pick up your Bible and read the Book of Ezekiel, starting with the 1st chapter.

Yes, I know about the angels in Ezekial and the symbolism that closely resembles aliens.

I never once said what I believed about this matter, just the fact that there are a predominate amount of stupid religious threads today. One should have sufficed to discuss these matters, but of course people just flood the OT board with this.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Geezus, corn cob up your ass much? What is your problem with critical thinking threads like this? How am I "proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement" by making a thread that questions your beliefs and doesn't mention a thing about religion? All I'm asking is which one do you have a harder time believing in since both require a certain amount of faith (unless you actually believe you saw God/think you were abducted by aliens).

So again, WTF is your problem with my thread? I didn't even know religion was todays ATOT theme, I made this early in the day before reading many other posts, but even if I did read them first it wouldn't matter I still would have posted this. So stop trying to make it into something it's not.

:roll:

That is why.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
I am 100% convinced there are other life form on other planets. The probability that earth is the only planet in the entire universe with billions of starts and galaxies where life exists is so low it's not funny.

The probability of an existing 'God' can't even be calculated since it's based on belief and not facts.

See my post above. This probability you speak of (i.e. the Drake Equation) is a sham. An equation without a single constant is meaningless and can be solved for any number you fancy. The only scientifically observable solution is 1, our own civilization.

You basically have a solid faith in God and call God "aliens." Your justification for this faith is incredibly similar to the argument that life, the universe, and everything is so perfect and complex that the probability that it could have happened simply by random chance is so low it's not even funny.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: randay
God is an Alien. Don't let him spit on you, his spit is like acid. Also he pops out of peoples chests, its really cool. They are all like "Oh my GOD!" *splorg* /emote god pops out of chest.

LOL...okay, this is just funny!

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Geezus, corn cob up your ass much? What is your problem with critical thinking threads like this? How am I "proselytizing all over the internet for my own amusement" by making a thread that questions your beliefs and doesn't mention a thing about religion? All I'm asking is which one do you have a harder time believing in since both require a certain amount of faith (unless you actually believe you saw God/think you were abducted by aliens).

So again, WTF is your problem with my thread? I didn't even know religion was todays ATOT theme, I made this early in the day before reading many other posts, but even if I did read them first it wouldn't matter I still would have posted this. So stop trying to make it into something it's not.

:roll:

That is why.

You are childish, this isn't even a religious thread, like I said it's a matter of personal faith and religion isn't needed to believe in a God or aliens. Maybe you should reconsider what a "silly religion thread" is as well, but if you want to call discussing God, aliens, and personal beliefs in them "silly and religious" then go right ahead, ATOT will judge you by that assessment and I don't need to continue defending my thread.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Vic
To those claiming the Drake Equation and/or the immense size of the universe (i.e., P = NP), I suggest you educate yourself on these issues. In the former, an equation with no constants is meaningless.

Uh... ok.

 

[CVSiN]

Jesus built my hotrod...

 

[Baked]

What if God's an Alien?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Vic
See my post above. This probability you speak of (i.e. the Drake Equation) is a sham. An equation without a single constant is meaningless and can be solved for any number you fancy. The only scientifically observable solution is 1, our own civilization.

The equation is not a sham. An equation without a single constant is not meaningless. Here's a pretty basic equation with no constants: A = L * H. That's the area of a parallelogram. Not meaningless!

Likewise, if you look at the meanings of the inputs in the Drake Equation, you'll see that the end result you'd get is what it claims it is. The issue you have is that there is no scientific bais for the inputs, so the equation can't give you an accurate result. That's fine - so attack it that way, don't just make stuff up.

(personally I think Drake's inputs were absurd)

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Vic
To those claiming the Drake Equation and/or the immense size of the universe (i.e., P = NP), I suggest you educate yourself on these issues. In the former, an equation with no constants is meaningless.

Uh... ok.

a = b + c

Solve for a.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Baked
What if God's an Alien?

This is already a well documented fact. Please see the following documentaries for more information:

Alien
Aliens
Alien³
Alien: Resurrection

Also see these well documented wars against Gods sworn enemy, Satan.

Aliens vs. Predator

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Vic
See my post above. This probability you speak of (i.e. the Drake Equation) is a sham. An equation without a single constant is meaningless and can be solved for any number you fancy. The only scientifically observable solution is 1, our own civilization.

The equation is not a sham. An equation without a single constant is not meaningless. Here's a pretty basic equation with no constants: A = L * H. That's the area of a parallelogram. Not meaningless!

Likewise, if you look at the meanings of the inputs in the Drake Equation, you'll see that the end result you'd get is what it claims it is. The issue you have is that there is no scientific bais for the inputs, so the equation can't give you an accurate result. That's fine - so attack it that way, don't just make stuff up.

I'm not making stuff up. The area of a parallelogram contains observable and definable measurements that, for the same parallelogram, are the same every time. You can't say that for the Drake Equation. You can just change the numbers depending on your mood that day. Hell, you can even solve it for less than 1, which (if the Drake Equation were scientific) would mean that the Earth scientifically doesn't exist!

The Drake Equation is the ultimate in pseudoscience.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Vic
To those claiming the Drake Equation and/or the immense size of the universe (i.e., P = NP), I suggest you educate yourself on these issues. In the former, an equation with no constants is meaningless.

Uh... ok.

a = b + c

Solve for a.

Give me b and c and I can.

a = 2b + c

Now you solve for a.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Vic
To those claiming the Drake Equation and/or the immense size of the universe (i.e., P = NP), I suggest you educate yourself on these issues. In the former, an equation with no constants is meaningless.

Uh... ok.

a = b + c

Solve for a.

Give me b and c and I can.

a = 2b + c

Now you solve for a.

ok Ill solve it.

a - c = 2b + c - c
a - c = 2b
a - c + c = 2b + c
a = 2b + c
a = aliens + exist

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
Drake equation means sh!t - we have one, and only one, intelligent life to base any of the values from. The rest we're just pulling out of our collective asses.

Edit: "Aliens Cause Global Warming" by Michael Crichton

Exactly. The Drake Equation is nothing more than a farce designed to give SETI some form of intelectual legitimacy.

 

[Praxis1452]

If space is infinite their is an infinite possibilty of life.

 

[AlienCraft]

Aliens = God